Favourite mixdowns

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Not really sure what Ableton has to do with it? Surgeons sound has allways been pretty much that way. Sounding harsh is a big part of harsh music in general... I think really that's the point.
If you listen to power electronics or industrial shiz like say Whithouse, Throbbing Gristle etc then a big part of that is the actual brutal use of sound and frequencies.
I understand if you like that or not is a matter of taste of course ;D

I agree 100% that Speedy J is technically excellent btw

I dont think things do turn to mush if you get too creative... not if done well and when you say sounds strange on a big system.. going off a few definitions of strange...
# being definitely out of the ordinary and unexpected; slightly odd or even a bit weird; not known before.
To me all good quality's (in techno at least)

One final word on how things sound on a big sound system.... Now not that I agree that the artist and style of production I mention sounds bad on big sound systems (I personaly think quite the opposite) BUT, I spend about 2 or 3 days (if that) a month listening to music on a club system. A club is probably the place I spend the smallest % of my time listening to music, where as I listen to music (mostly techno) EVERY day at home. Not all techno should be made for clubs so to me how it sounds in my room is more important to me.

I hope I don't sound argumentative as Im realy not meaning too... am just trying to explain the reasons behind my original answer to the question ;)

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Not really sure what Ableton has to do with it? Surgeons sound has allways been pretty much that way. Sounding harsh is a big part of harsh music in general... I think really that's the point.

sorry i can be a bit bad with jumping to conclusions on digital sound and i do appreciate your point about the harshness being a part of his sound. but if i compare the older tunes to things like the 46 remix and shed remix there's a pretty audible difference. analog style grit just sounds more 'right' to my ears. anyhow this wasnt meant to be a right or wrong thread, i'm just interested in what sort of textures/qualities other people are into and not least why it appeals to them. didnt mean to say the artist you mentioned sound bad, should really stop going on forums so late.

If you listen to power electronics or industrial shiz like say Whithouse, Throbbing Gristle etc then a big part of that is the actual brutal use of sound and frequencies.
I understand if you like that or not is a matter of taste of course ;D

I agree 100% that Speedy J is technically excellent btw

I dont think things do turn to mush if you get too creative... not if done well and when you say sounds strange on a big system.. going off a few definitions of strange...
# being definitely out of the ordinary and unexpected; slightly odd or even a bit weird; not known before.
To me all good quality's (in techno at least)

One final word on how things sound on a big sound system.... Now not that I agree that the artist and style of production I mention sounds bad on big sound systems (I personaly think quite the opposite) BUT, I spend about 2 or 3 days (if that) a month listening to music on a club system. A club is probably the place I spend the smallest % of my time listening to music, where as I listen to music (mostly techno) EVERY day at home. Not all techno should be made for clubs so to me how it sounds in my room is more important to me.

I hope I don't sound argumentative as Im realy not meaning too... am just trying to explain the reasons behind my original answer to the question ;)

all good points. there are definitely styles of mixdowns that dont translate well to clubs. club sound is another thing im bad at obsessing over :lol: kinda OT rant: on a personal club/big systems note i try not to deal with music that sounds like its actively designed to destroy your ears. crazy breakcore, industrial and things like that. a personal aesthetic choice like you said but life's just too short. i once met a schranz producer who preffered the old fruity loops with the dodgy output code because of the 'hard edge' sound. crusty old guitar amps and compressors, tape saturation and so on i can understand, but a digital 'hard edge' i dont think i'll come to appreciate. i wish they made replaceable ears so you could experience all types of sound without having to worry about permanent damage.