I hate showboating, but the people who do it play to a bigger crowd than I do

[Honeey]

I love techno because you actually have to work it behind the decks :)

[morbid]

DJ Beauty has incredible tits

Quick summary

[The_Laughing_Man]

showboating or 'putting on a show' is really important these days.

whether that's a wiggle of ya eyebrow or screaming 'come on you wankers!', its helps get a reaction from a crowd and that, folks, is the name of the game i'm afraid.

PUTTING ON a show.
Putting on, as in pretense.
I would rather an artist be honest, than put on an "act".
I leave that for X-Factor.

Why is show boating important?
Important for what?
To what end?

Don`t play the game.
Subvert the game.
Destroy the game.
Circumvent the game.
Phuck the game.

Only the spirit of punk can save us from this bullshit.

[-LETHAL-ONE-]

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[-LETHAL-ONE-]

PUTTING ON a show.
Putting on, as in pretense.
I would rather an artist be honest, than put on an "act".
I leave that for X-Factor.

Why is show boating important?
Important for what?
To what end?

Don`t play the game.
Subvert the game.
Destroy the game.
Circumvent the game.
Phuck the game.

Only the spirit of punk can save us from this bullshit.

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[Darkmode]

I think your complaining about something that is not even worth complaining about

[teknorich]

That Alex MORPH guy is exactly how I'd imagine Paul Gascoine would be if he did a DJ set. I'm absolutely amazed there wasn't a shower of bottles raining down on him from the crowd...

AWFUL!

[DannyBlack]

its all the one really. you like to have a giggle behind the decks or you don't. Just don't be a cringy f*ck and you're sorted.

[The_Laughing_Man]

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That`s not to say you should wear a black polar neck and try to be a too-cool-for-school statue of indifference.
But you can tell when turntable monkeys are putting it on.

[DannyBlack]

when reaches the point of looking like someones dad doing a wedding dance- stop.

until then bounce/ponce around and connect with the crowd.

[qUE]

1. yes it is
2. and if only you did you would be famous.
3. get a job
4. stop complaining
5. wear your pants on your head next time you play and get a mate to video it

Oi!

I'd rather be on the dole, it'd give me time to do my stuff rather than be paid to wipe peoples arses in an industry they suck up to and I don't. And, I'm british, it's my right to moan about inane things!

But TBH, Mark and yourself are right in terms of the general public's preception. It seems that if you make lots of bodily movements during a set people assume you're actually doing something, otherwise they get suspicious.

In my personal experience; I've heard from the grapevine, punters questioning if I've truely played live during my sets (which I have of course, why else would I bring a ton of gear and spend quite a while setting it up before hand). I still can't help but feel it would have probably been wise to stick a couple of sponge hands to my shoulders and bounce left and right :/

[qUE]

Anyway, right, real reason I started this thread...

I saw Wolfgang Flur (who's now know as Yamo) from Kraftwerk last year in Bristol, whilst it was great listening to him do a reading/talk about his time in Kraftwerk, the music he produces now is really generic, and sure enough the set he played after the speech was a typical laptop affair and he was clearly shown how to do showboating (much dad dance). Now I know Wolfgang was mearly a percussionist in the band (not to discredit him as a member of it) and Kraftwerk made pop music. That gig coupled with seeing Chris Leibing for the second time doing his car parcel shelf nodding dog impression and probably countless other artists I've gone to seen in recent years, has tarnished something for me. They've all been a part of something I've respected and to see them play to crowds which TBH couldn't care less whatever they're listening to/paid to see, and the artist play accordingly to that, is slightly disheartening.

There was once a time when electronic music was exotic, faux pas and cutting edge (way before "Techno"), why should it lose this?

Why has it become normal for artists to play really dumbed down music and pretend orchestrate the sound with bodily movements?

And more importantly why do the general public want and accept this???


And I'm not ****ing confused.whatever, **** television to.

/me launches TV through window

[Jake Conlon]

Live Performance in the Age of Supercomputing

&

Live Performance in the Age of Supercomputing II

[The_Laughing_Man]

It seems that if you make lots of bodily movements during a set people assume you're actually doing something, otherwise they get suspicious.

This is it in essence.
Well done.
It`s all about the illusion of activity.
If the whole DJ as god hype never came about, DJ`s would be able to do their jobs, and play records and not have to bother with the pretense and all the other crap. Unfortunately X-Factor pop marketing took DJing to a point where the DJ became the star and not the music and it trickled down into the underground eventually, and then expectations of performance crept in.

Now you have turntable monkeys having to jump through hoops and balance a ball on their nose like a performing zoo animal, just to make sure they still get their fish.
It`s why I abandoned Dirty Bass. I didn`t like how the more commercial side of techno had changed.

Techno isn`t underground any more, it`s already been through it`s commercial peak. Now it`s just unpopular.
I still love it more than any other music though.

[Jake Conlon]

Techno isn`t underground any more, it`s already been through it`s commercial peak. Now it`s just unpopular.
I still love it more than any other music though.

10 years ago to the hour, many trance mans probaly said exactly the same thing. :lol:

[The_Laughing_Man]

10 years ago to the hour, many trance mans probaly said exactly the same thing. :lol:

The difference being trance always had a larger commercial potential, so when it settled after it`s peak, along with mainstream house, it still remains the mainstream of dance music.
Techno was always niche, it reached it`s niche peak and then returned to it`s post hype mean.
It still absorbed enough of the ugliness of the commercial scene though.

Mnml is massively popular, but it`s so close to house it`s interchangeable.

But blah blah anyway, back to the subject.

Acting like a performing monkey is necessary for mainstream popularity, if that is what you want.

[DannyBlack]

hold the ****ing phone lads....


There's a lot of bitter sounding bitching here. Let me get this right, a DJ plays some tunes and if he dances (because he likes it) and connects with the crowd in any way he negates the whole thing?

Bollocks.

Or is this about the boring music people seem to be playing?

Why not stop Techno all together? Why not start wearing tight cardigans and thick black rimmed glasses and become a trendy indie kid?


This thread is bullshit.

[DannyBlack]

I love to get up there and bang out tunes that people dance to, I love to throw my hands up in the air and bounce around like a tool, because im feeling the buzz of it all. (i dont go over the top)

One thing i hate is someone that stands up there lifeless, its f*cking boring. You may as well throw a CD on.

[The_Laughing_Man]

hold the ****ing phone lads....


There's a lot of bitter sounding bitching here. Let me get this right, a DJ plays some tunes and if he dances (because he likes it) and connects with the crowd in any way he negates the whole thing?

Bollocks.

Or is this about the boring music people seem to be playing?

Why not stop Techno all together? Why not start wearing tight cardigans and thick black rimmed glasses and become a trendy indie kid?


This thread is bullshit.

I think the point is the pretense.
You can tell the difference between someone playing music and digging it themselves, having a groove on, and then X-Factor performing monkey bollocks.

On is natural and honest.
The other is an act.
If someone is playing music and feel thay have to, rather than want to "perform" then it is gash.

[DannyBlack]

very true. well yeah i get it from that point. Tiesto and that gormless shite guetta spring to mind.