I hate showboating, but the people who do it play to a bigger crowd than I do

[davethedrummer]

is it really a part of playing out now?

If only I had bigger tits.

1. yes it is
2. and if only you did you would be famous.
3. get a job
4. stop complaining
5. wear your pants on your head next time you play and get a mate to video it

[djfilthmonger]

1. yes it is
2. and if only you did you would be famous.
3. get a job
4. stop complaining
5. wear your pants on your head next time you play and get a mate to video it

:lol:

[qUE]

1. yes it is
2. and if only you did you would be famous.
3. get a job
4. stop complaining
5. wear your pants on your head next time you play and get a mate to video it

Oi!

I'd rather be on the dole, it'd give me time to do my stuff rather than be paid to wipe peoples arses in an industry they suck up to and I don't. And, I'm british, it's my right to moan about inane things!

But TBH, Mark and yourself are right in terms of the general public's preception. It seems that if you make lots of bodily movements during a set people assume you're actually doing something, otherwise they get suspicious.

In my personal experience; I've heard from the grapevine, punters questioning if I've truely played live during my sets (which I have of course, why else would I bring a ton of gear and spend quite a while setting it up before hand). I still can't help but feel it would have probably been wise to stick a couple of sponge hands to my shoulders and bounce left and right :/

[qUE]

Anyway, right, real reason I started this thread...

I saw Wolfgang Flur (who's now know as Yamo) from Kraftwerk last year in Bristol, whilst it was great listening to him do a reading/talk about his time in Kraftwerk, the music he produces now is really generic, and sure enough the set he played after the speech was a typical laptop affair and he was clearly shown how to do showboating (much dad dance). Now I know Wolfgang was mearly a percussionist in the band (not to discredit him as a member of it) and Kraftwerk made pop music. That gig coupled with seeing Chris Leibing for the second time doing his car parcel shelf nodding dog impression and probably countless other artists I've gone to seen in recent years, has tarnished something for me. They've all been a part of something I've respected and to see them play to crowds which TBH couldn't care less whatever they're listening to/paid to see, and the artist play accordingly to that, is slightly disheartening.

There was once a time when electronic music was exotic, faux pas and cutting edge (way before "Techno"), why should it lose this?

Why has it become normal for artists to play really dumbed down music and pretend orchestrate the sound with bodily movements?

And more importantly why do the general public want and accept this???


And I'm not ****ing confused.whatever, **** television to.

/me launches TV through window

[The_Laughing_Man]

It seems that if you make lots of bodily movements during a set people assume you're actually doing something, otherwise they get suspicious.

This is it in essence.
Well done.
It`s all about the illusion of activity.
If the whole DJ as god hype never came about, DJ`s would be able to do their jobs, and play records and not have to bother with the pretense and all the other crap. Unfortunately X-Factor pop marketing took DJing to a point where the DJ became the star and not the music and it trickled down into the underground eventually, and then expectations of performance crept in.

Now you have turntable monkeys having to jump through hoops and balance a ball on their nose like a performing zoo animal, just to make sure they still get their fish.
It`s why I abandoned Dirty Bass. I didn`t like how the more commercial side of techno had changed.

Techno isn`t underground any more, it`s already been through it`s commercial peak. Now it`s just unpopular.
I still love it more than any other music though.

[Jake Conlon]

Techno isn`t underground any more, it`s already been through it`s commercial peak. Now it`s just unpopular.
I still love it more than any other music though.

10 years ago to the hour, many trance mans probaly said exactly the same thing. :lol:

[The_Laughing_Man]

10 years ago to the hour, many trance mans probaly said exactly the same thing. :lol:

The difference being trance always had a larger commercial potential, so when it settled after it`s peak, along with mainstream house, it still remains the mainstream of dance music.
Techno was always niche, it reached it`s niche peak and then returned to it`s post hype mean.
It still absorbed enough of the ugliness of the commercial scene though.

Mnml is massively popular, but it`s so close to house it`s interchangeable.

But blah blah anyway, back to the subject.

Acting like a performing monkey is necessary for mainstream popularity, if that is what you want.

[crime]

5. wear your pants on your head next time you play and get a mate to video it

Ha! The first time I read that I thought it said "PISS your pants next time you play and get a mate to video it" :D