I hate showboating, but the people who do it play to a bigger crowd than I do

[SlavikSvensk]

i like seeing djs get excited by the music. but that only matters if a) the music is good; and b) the performance, i.e. the mixing, is good.

there's nothing sillier than seeing a dj ham it up and take a bow when doing absolutely nothing.

[The_Laughing_Man]

If the DJ is shit hot and playing good tunes, they probably won`t have time to do silly Jedward dance moves anyway.

Mills is a good example, gets on with his job, smashes the place to bits (when he is on it, obviously), doesn`t put on an act.
Surgeon is another good example. Good at what he does, doesn`t need to have an act.
Leave all that shit for the Tidy DJ`s


Isn`t that why we have lasers, strobes, smoke machines, gobo scans, LED panels, projections etc?

[SlavikSvensk]

well, mills also does his little shake dance while he's at it. that's not showboating, and it's not what makes him a great dj, but it is part of the performance. that's a good example of what i'm talking about...performers getting down as they do their thang. i enjoy seeing that.

that guy in the leather vest is an uberdouche

[davethedrummer]

Live Performance in the Age of Supercomputing

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Live Performance in the Age of Supercomputing II

wow ! a whole page to justify the fact that he can't play an instrument
learn the piano mate

[The_Laughing_Man]

Isn`t this thread about snowboarding anyway?

[Jake Conlon]

wow ! a whole page to justify the fact that he can't play an instrument
learn the piano mate

I think that's what he was trying to get at. Piano players understand Piano, whilst the rest of the world just her plinky plonk but still relate the actions.

Computer music people generally know whats going on in a live performance for example an Ableton effect is able to be picked up by the knowledgeable listener. The listener who doesn't have a clue or care wouldn't associate that effect without anything as they haven't seen anything action to associate it with.

This is where all the showboating fandango comes in. Seen as 90% of a club don't give a toss, they need something.


(I would have explained this better but I am typing on a netbook where one key is half the size of my fingr.)

[CTRLS]

well, mills also does his little shake dance while he's at it. that's not showboating, and it's not what makes him a great dj, but it is part of the performance. that's a good example of what i'm talking about...performers getting down as they do their thang. i enjoy seeing that.

this. octave one are so enjoyable to watch, massive amounts of energy to the crowd. same with may. i guess the trick is to find a dance you can do while you're performing :lol:

some of my favourite jazz players look like complete spengs when they do their thing, i always believed that immersion is what makes them so good.

[crime]

5. wear your pants on your head next time you play and get a mate to video it

Ha! The first time I read that I thought it said "PISS your pants next time you play and get a mate to video it" :D

[crime]

I remember the days when it wasn't about looking at the DJ, but at the other people dancing around you.. probably where it all started to go wrong with paying attention to what the DJ was doing visually, sod that, it was about the music...

[Jay Pace]

This is your god.

Kneel before him, maggots.

[DarkYoung]

This is your god.

Kneel before him, maggots.

i hate nights like that, i don't think i've done one period. talk about sheep.

[DarkYoung]

I remember the days when it wasn't about looking at the DJ, but at the other people dancing around you.. probably where it all started to go wrong with paying attention to what the DJ was doing visually, sod that, it was about the music...

innit. i used to go the headcharge nights and havok nights (in sheffield) about 3 times a month back in the day.
the djs were amazing, but everyone was too off their head, having a good time to be really noticing anything the dj was doing, they may aswell have been invisible.

well that's not strictly true, i think i'd be the one always trying to shake the dj's hand.
and dave the drummer got me removed from the side of the dj booth for being in some catatonic trance staring at him.

try doing that at one of those parties like watching U2 or summat.

[-LETHAL-ONE-]

and dave the drummer got me removed from the side of the dj booth for being in some catatonic trance staring at him.

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Funny stuff man.....

















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[qUE]

innit. i used to go the headcharge nights and havok nights (in sheffield) about 3 times a month back in the day.
the djs were amazing, but everyone was too off their head, having a good time to be really noticing anything the dj was doing, they may aswell have been invisible.

well that's not strictly true, i think i'd be the one always trying to shake the dj's hand.
and dave the drummer got me removed from the side of the dj booth for being in some catatonic trance staring at him.

try doing that at one of those parties like watching U2 or summat.

Ha ha, I'm sure we've all been there doing DJ watching.

Only time I've asked people to politely step away is when they're off their heads and they've got a pint in their hand, hovering over computer monitors or other mains fed kit :/
It's more for their safety than anything, most of my computer kit is salvaged :)

[qUE]

wow ! a whole page to justify the fact that he can't play an instrument
learn the piano mate

Bear in mind they're responsible for Ableton;

ableton live

[SlavikSvensk]

Live Performance in the Age of Supercomputing

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Live Performance in the Age of Supercomputing II

really interesting articles!

[Jake Conlon]

really interesting articles!

Yeah, Robert Henke definitely isn't one of the guetta style showboaters but his article makes you realise why some people need that to latch onto.

kiddie school simple concept tbh, but this is techno and we have to chin about everything.

[The_Laughing_Man]

There is a reason why the most undercomplex, most generic music often works best for DJs - a sound design that has been tested in thousands of clubs most likely work in yet another club too. However, this does not serve the evolution of music, and it is quite boring. We know that a Roland TR-808 bassdrum works in a club. Fine, lets find a less overused sound. How can we do so, if we cannot hear it?

Club music could be far more advanced if the creators would have more control over their work. However, this means investing time and effort in convincing promoters and PA guys. And it means questioning the usual routine. Do I need to be on stage? Do i need to have monitors? Can I find a space in the middle of the room? Am I comfortable not to be seen as the untouchable star far away?

Got to agree with this 100%
All my best PA`s have been when the promoters have allowed me to set up on the dance floor, or in front of the DJ set up, so that I can work from the PA and not from the inevitably useless stage monitors.
Not only that it gives the audience more of a chance to see me actually playing live, and I get the chance to be with them.
I hate being on stage, the fun is on the floor.

[davethedrummer]

innit. i used to go the headcharge nights and havok nights (in sheffield) about 3 times a month back in the day.
the djs were amazing, but everyone was too off their head, having a good time to be really noticing anything the dj was doing, they may aswell have been invisible.

well that's not strictly true, i think i'd be the one always trying to shake the dj's hand.
and dave the drummer got me removed from the side of the dj booth for being in some catatonic trance staring at him.

try doing that at one of those parties like watching U2 or summat.

I'm sure you deserved it.

by the way I nearly had a fight with a bloke in Austria
who insisted on ****ing about with the mixer while I was playing,
every time I went for a new record he would get stuck in
cutting and fading and eq'ing really badly and all out of time needless to say.
I basically said to him after asking politely about a million times:
" do that again and I'll smash you're f*cking face in !!"
and he smiled at me like:
" hahaha, look at the funny man, mummy, he looks angry."
you can't really hit someone after that can you?
I just showed him the door of the booth
and it turned out that was exactly what he had been looking for anyway.
goodbye muppet !
and off he went on his merry way,
face intact ( lucky boy )

[davethedrummer]

This is your god.

Kneel before him, maggots.

I am AMAZING !!!!!!!!!