Do you think good solid techno is dead

[Soitiz Info]

In the UK as far as events are concerned , all that seems to be around in the uk is MINIMAL , yes there still is your ACID , but a lot of the nights now who were Techno & still put techno on there flyers , have MINIMAL djs headlining there events , like ATOMIC JAM .
There dont seem to be nights or events on that just have techno , im talking bout likes of RUSH , BONE , ANDREAS KREMER , A PAUL , COUNTERPART , BORIS S , ARRON THE PIMP , OSCAR CROMA , JEROME BAKER just to name a few
i spend a lot of time on the net looking for events . nights for my own website , but over the last few months it seems to be less n less , i know there is a credit crunch on , is it effecting the techno scene as well

[DannyBlack]

It's just really hard to get people out unless it is a free in gig and even then it's still tough.

Every little thing adds up- posters, the venue, insurence, bouncers then the talent. too much of a risk to get it going these days. That's why I'm not bothering for a while.

[Soitiz Info]

It's just really hard to get people out unless it is a free in gig and even then it's still tough.

Every little thing adds up- posters, the venue, insurence, bouncers then the talent. too much of a risk to get it going these days. That's why I'm not bothering for a while.

yeah good points ...
if they can bring in the big djs playing minimal , why not bring in the techno heads , that is my issue :angry:

[Winds]

yeah good points ...
if they can bring in the big djs playing minimal , why not bring in the techno heads , that is my issue :angry:

I dont think theres a big enough following for the tougher techno nowadays to pay for massive line ups.

[The Overfiend]

I dont think theres a big enough following for the tougher techno nowadays to pay for massive line ups.

Steve has good points, I also believe this hits the nail on the head as well.

[ds2]

try this..

http://www.blackoutaudio.co.uk/forum...02-2009-a.html




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[The_Laughing_Man]

Steve has good points, I also believe this hits the nail on the head as well.

Who needs massive line ups, what you need are GOOD line ups, playing good music.

Variety and diversity is paramount, not cult of personality.

[djfilthmonger]

I dont think theres a big enough following for the tougher techno nowadays to pay for massive line ups.

I think Waterford / ireland are doing alright at the moment with the hard stuff. i played in Clonmel there on Stephan's day (boxing day) fairly hard techno not bloody schranz. but good auld glenn wilson / cari lekebusch stuff and the crowd are well into and the others that played kept it hard and in your face also.

Tbh i havent heard many minimal nites in waterford at the min, but between myself and few of the other lads we have kept above the broad techno wise.
in fact im heading to see sum techno tonight and the lads will bang it out.
you dont need big names just good djs.
Like in the uk do ye go to local djs or just for the names. becoz its very mixed here at the moment.

[Jay Pace]

I don't think its dead, its just not as popular as it once was in the UK, and the people who are good at it are probably better off getting booked to play in europe for 3 times the fee.

[fils_here]

there's a few nights in rhyl & bangor still having it, haven't really had any massive name's on, up n coming on the scene etc...
but i think the ole credit crunch has hit a few of us hard like :-(

[djfilthmonger]

In Waterford Ireland thers been a grand flow of decent techno djs this year, technasia, ben sims, billy nasty , dave the drummer , juan aktins, derrick may to name a few

[DannyBlack]

I think a restart is where we have come to now. Local talent and unknown names seem to get the biggest crowds these days. Big names are out of reach for the promoter for now.

[fils_here]

I think a restart is where we have come to now. Local talent and unknown names seem to get the biggest crowds these days. Big names are out of reach for the promoter for now.

you could be right, it's a lot of money getting a big name from abroad, flights etc...

[DannyBlack]

Defo. Sometimes it's mearly a case of the DJ that you want not being particularly well known- decent price for the job he/she is doing but it is still a financial risk because the people don't identify with the name.

[The_Laughing_Man]

It`s dead in UK mostly.
As in proper techno anyway.
There`s some nights still doing it proper, like Detached in Leeds, and there`s better clubs abroad, but 2009 has been the year that techno finally lots it`s balls AND spine. The last few techno artists I respected, who I thought had integrity, finally folded to make trendy plodding house shite (or mnml techno if you want to call it that). Comfortable, middle class, middle aged music, for comfortable, middle class, middle aged people.

I wouldn`t mind mnml so much if it wasn`t so safe. about 1% of minimal producers are doing something different or ballsy, the rest are just using the same sounds, same tones, same shuffles and blending in with the hope of popularity.
It`s worse than phucking X-Factor. At least those cunts sell out for a potential big money score and a good 15 mins of fame.
These mnml sell outs are selling their souls for about 1 second of vague recognition and some pocket money.

Detestable.

End of year rant over.

Happy New Revolution.

[rhythmtech]

It`s dead in UK mostly.
As in proper techno anyway.
There`s some nights still doing it proper, like Detached in Leeds, and there`s better clubs abroad, but 2009 has been the year that techno finally lots it`s balls AND spine. The last few techno artists I respected, who I thought had integrity, finally folded to make trendy plodding house shite (or mnml techno if you want to call it that). Comfortable, middle class, middle aged music, for comfortable, middle class, middle aged people.

I wouldn`t mind mnml so much if it wasn`t so safe. about 1% of minimal producers are doing something different or ballsy, the rest are just using the same sounds, same tones, same shuffles and blending in with the hope of popularity.
It`s worse than phucking X-Factor. At least those cunts sell out for a potential big money score and a good 15 mins of fame.
These mnml sell outs are selling their souls for about 1 second of vague recognition and some pocket money.

Detestable.

End of year rant over.

Happy New Revolution.

:clap:

and thats probably being nice about it all.

[Siege]

bravo!!

[CTRLS]

i was kinda hoping that ping pong minimal wave would've come and gone by now but they seem to have things on pretty serious lockdown. but it must also be hard for outsiders to get into the harder stuff now that everything is so segregated. instead of only having audio assault style destruction on one night, minus nights the next and purist detroit snobbery on another, it'd be nice to see somebody mixing it up and creating some progression throughout the night via different styles.

because on the other hand i definitely wouldnt want things to go back to the early 2000 washed out 140bpm sound either. there were sooo many generic and cheesy dancefloor tracks released at that time. i'm still sick of the disco samples, 909 beats and tribal loops combo.

but there's hope! robert hood and slater are back on form and it was a big year for the ostgut ton/berghain sound. that's a definite step in the right direction as far as i'm concerned.

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