Drums / Kicks / Clean Sound

[tekboi]

A lot of this stuff is hard to take in & I know it takes time to learn & practice the road of production, I will keep at it & experiment, hopefully have something to post for you guys soon & let me know what you think. Anymore info or guidelines would be great, you guys rock!!

Steve, if you get a chance could you walk us through the steps of creating a kick from scratch?

This would be fantastic to know, if possible, thanks a million.
What are good generators or VST drum machines I can use to avoid using kick samples etc???

[CTRLS]

What are good generators or VST drum machines I can use to avoid using kick samples etc???

if you're on ableton then operator must be given a shot. best i've come across so far. there are some synths that do pretty decent percussion but i do find it pretty rare in the software world. the envelopes are usually to flabby and they start clicking when you want fast responses. i like sonic charge's utonic as well but a pro featured sampler will usually do the trick.

iproducer #4 - Unlink and Conquer + Bonus on Vimeo near the end of this video you can see how to do a basic tuned kick with operator.

nothing wrong with using samples. if you're on a digital setup there are things you wont be able to imitate, and capable analog drum machines and a proper interface to record them with will be expensive. the trick is to be extremely critical about your source sounds (that goes for everything not just drums). i'd recommend you to get a copy of some of the goldbaby sample packs. the mpc packs and the tape 808 and 909s are extremely handy for building kicks and they've got very nice warm and analog character to them. the kind of samples that work for you.

[The_Laughing_Man]

A lot of this stuff is hard to take in & I know it takes time to learn & practice the road of production, I will keep at it & experiment, hopefully have something to post for you guys soon & let me know what you think. Anymore info or guidelines would be great, you guys rock!!



This would be fantastic to know, if possible, thanks a million.
What are good generators or VST drum machines I can use to avoid using kick samples etc???

Drumular is great
Sonic Charge Microtonic is good too, but more noisy.
I actually make a lot of my drums with FM8, but it`s a little complex to begin with.
There are some good presets that come with Abletons operator as well. They are a good place to start from.
Really Drumular is the one I turn to a lot, or Drumatic.


Free ones, there is Drumatic 3, which is very very good, and Rhythms BD2 which is also nice for more loose analog style.

[tekboi]

Thanks heaps everyone, much appreciated, I will give all these options above a go & let you know how I progress..

Just a couple of more questions, firstly, what do you guys think of Drumazon & Nepheton, good place to start for me??

Secondly, lets say I had money & was willing to spend this amount, is the product below worth it & will I be able to get my head around it quickly???

Elektron Music Machines

Software is my aim of course, especially due to my learning process but.. I am willing to pay for products that can help me get the sound I want, prefer going this way rather than samples for some reason...?