hip-hop startled by dance music

[blistanbul]

hello to all. i know it is more to do with electro-house but what do you lot think of r+b acts like beyonce and rap with kanye west and black eyed peas incorporating dance music into their tunes?

kind of cheap don't you think?

[eppertheleper]

Inevitable. No-talent or low-talent hacks with big names have been siphoning off the electronic scene for years and they'll continue to do so. Madonna has made an extremely successful career out of it.

[blistanbul]

but they were more in the remix side of things, it seems now that every rapper is talking about 808's y'alls.

i mean dizzee in the uk does it as well, but he comes from dance background(grime) not hip-hop.

[davethedrummer]

I couldn't care less.

[Igneous]

Its pop music so it doesn't even register on my radar.

[markandrew]

Its pop music so it doesn't even register on my radar.

what he said

[Technologic]

hello to all. i know it is more to do with electro-house but what do you lot think of r+b acts like beyonce and rap with kanye west and black eyed peas incorporating dance music into their tunes?

kind of cheap don't you think?

I thought the biggest crime the balck eyed peas ever committed was ripping of miserlou(sp)

[helenk579]

I thought the biggest crime the balck eyed peas ever committed was ripping of miserlou(sp)

I also think so.

[blistanbul]

i like the propose this question to you the drummer:

say the remote possibility becomes a reality and acid takes over the states, would you remix pop acts ?

just curious. or you would never consider such a proposition?

[markandrew]

i like the propose this question to you the drummer:

say the remote possibility becomes a reality and acid takes over the states, would you remix pop acts ?

just curious. or you would never consider such a proposition?

more chance of seeing this every week but you never know :lol:

[davethedrummer]

i like the propose this question to you the drummer:

say the remote possibility becomes a reality and acid takes over the states, would you remix pop acts ?

just curious. or you would never consider such a proposition?

of course I would remix pop acts !
I'm a musician, it goes without saying.
in fact, I HAVE remixed pop acts, nothing incredibly famous but i have done it in the past.
Jesus jones, Elastica, the Orb, Prodigy, North and South (and more, most of them unused )
There's nothing wrong with making some money from your art.
Remixes are probably the best way to make some cash from music without risk.

but if you're asking me to make a horrible cheesy record that I hate, just for money
then no, the answer is I couldn't do it even if I wanted to.
I have tried, I came to the conclusion that you can't make music cynically.

[blistanbul]

of course I would remix pop acts !
I'm a musician, it goes without saying.
in fact, I HAVE remixed pop acts, nothing incredibly famous but i have done it in the past.
Jesus jones, Elastica, the Orb, Prodigy, North and South (and more, most of them unused )
There's nothing wrong with making some money from your art.
Remixes are probably the best way to make some cash from music without risk.

but if you're asking me to make a horrible cheesy record that I hate, just for money
then no, the answer is I couldn't do it even if I wanted to.
I have tried, I came to the conclusion that you can't make music cynically.

they are good acts.

would you remix will young>?

[wrong]

would you remix will young>?

Are you Will Young?

[blistanbul]

Are you Will Young?

i'm daddy

but seriously guys hip-hop sucks.

[Paul Zykotik]

Not a big deal. Dance music took enough influences from hip-hop back in the day.

[Jants]

i genrally like most of the music of hip hop just dont like the lyrics

[Jay Pace]

Another one for henry...

Would you let one of your loops or samples be used in a horrible pop track?

Can understand why people do it. But always kind of kills the original for me. Hearing kanye west blether over the top of daft punk makes me want to break things...

[rhythmtech]

im really coming to the conclusion that music is just music.

for all our high and mightiness about "underground" theres another group of people that love cheesey pop just as much.

if you can make money from music these days then you're a bloody genius.. doesnt matter what style it is.

[tonyc2002]

im really coming to the conclusion that music is just music.

for all our high and mightiness about "underground" theres another group of people that love cheesey pop just as much.

if you can make money from music these days then you're a bloody genius.. doesnt matter what style it is.

QFT

[morbid]

im really coming to the conclusion that music is just music.

So true

You dont have to like a certain style to see how it works for its target audience

If you cant listen to a Sugarbabes track or similar and hear what it is about it that makes a really good hook or a breakdown between verses then you arent qualified to give an opinion on it - it may be cheesy bollocks but if you cant appreciate it for what it is then you can **** off calling yourself a musican in my opinion.

Saying pop is shit is a waste of a sentance - it is what it is - How many pioneers in the style of music that we all love have had chart success - remember Donna Summer, The Shamen, Snap, The Prodigy - thats the definition of pop - popular music, nothing more - dont tell me the KLF were not important in the wider dissemination of dance music, dont tell me that 808 state or bomb the bass or happy mondays or PWEI or even bullshit artists like benny benasi have not been instrumental in putting the message of dance music across to a larger audience