Ben Simms & Surgeon Etc @ Split - Turnmills 8th Feb 2004

**Buttman** · 09-02-2004, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

also, surgeon isnt using final scratch as of l8ly. He has been djing using chopped loops etc with ableton live and a midi contoller.

Really?? I never heard of that.

**Buttman** · 09-02-2004, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by miromiric

4 punds?!?! when we went to slovakia it was like half of a pound i think.

Less!

**matt303** · 10-02-2004, 01:14 AM

Top night indeed, amp nice to met you too. Ho and Surgeon were exceptional.

g · 10-02-2004, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Buttman

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

also, surgeon isnt using final scratch as of l8ly. He has been djing using chopped loops etc with ableton live and a midi contoller.

Really?? I never heard of that.

sure he wasn't doing both?

**serox** · 10-02-2004, 11:14 AM

big eyes maybe too much fuking E. looks like alot of gurners

**ampassasinbirmingham** · 10-02-2004, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by g

Originally Posted by Buttman

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

also, surgeon isnt using final scratch as of l8ly. He has been djing using chopped loops etc with ableton live and a midi contoller.

Really?? I never heard of that.

sure he wasn't doing both?

i didnt think he was? i didnt see him use phones once

**Buttman** · 10-02-2004, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

i didnt think he was? i didnt see him use phones once

Why use headphones when playing with FS? You can read the BPM instead of hearing it.

**TripleX** · 10-02-2004, 03:42 PM

really it has a beatcounter in it

didnÂ´t know that

**schlongfingers** · 10-02-2004, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Buttman

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

i didnt think he was? i didnt see him use phones once

Why use headphones when playing with FS? You can read the BPM instead of hearing it.

Beatcounters are notoriously dodgy tho, you can't use one effectively with final scratch in the same way you can't use one on a mixer or a deck

**Buttman** · 10-02-2004, 04:26 PM

Maybe he timestretched all his mp3s to 134bpm?

**schlongfingers** · 10-02-2004, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Buttman

Maybe he timestretched all his mp3s to 134bpm?

I guess he could have, does FS still run on BEOS tho? If so, as far as I'm aware it would be impossible to run FS and Ableton at the same time on the same laptop.

Whatever he's using, I really think these are exciting times in terms of live processor based audio manipulation - the developments that have been made even within the last 3 years are amazing , then again I guess the last 30 years have been astonishing in terms of technological development!

**ampassasinbirmingham** · 10-02-2004, 05:31 PM

plus butty i stood and watched him use ableton and a midi controler for an hour.

g · 10-02-2004, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by schlongfingers

Originally Posted by Buttman

Maybe he timestretched all his mp3s to 134bpm?

I guess he could have, does FS still run on BEOS tho? If so, as far as I'm aware it would be impossible to run FS and Ableton at the same time on the same laptop.

Whatever he's using, I really think these are exciting times in terms of live processor based audio manipulation - the developments that have been made even within the last 3 years are amazing , then again I guess the last 30 years have been astonishing in terms of technological development!

no, it runs on osx and embedded linux under xp. soon to be native on xp. regardless, interesting that he's doing all-ableton sets

**Stuart** · 10-02-2004, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

plus butty i stood and watched him use ableton and a midi controler for an hour.

Ableton beat matchs for you as such so there is absolutly no skill in playing a DJ set with it.

**miromiric.** · 10-02-2004, 05:43 PM

well beatmatching is boring and it unecessarily takes your time.

**ampassasinbirmingham** · 10-02-2004, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Stuart

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

plus butty i stood and watched him use ableton and a midi controler for an hour.

Ableton beat matchs for you as such so there is absolutly no skill in playing a DJ set with it.

he dj's with it in an inovative way tho. he doesnt just mix tracks. he chops loops from records and combines them to create live fuked up shenanigans. lots of the tunes he plays are his remakes of other peeps tracks. he will constantly have at least two seperate loops playing at once.

**ampassasinbirmingham** · 10-02-2004, 06:15 PM

it takes things to the next level. Why mess around with beat matching if you can make things sound a hundred times better without? ;)

**split** · 10-02-2004, 07:09 PM

a big big thanks to all who turned out, especially those who travelled from far away, it was a very successful night and obviously there's a couple of issues we'll bear in mind for the next one but overall it was an extremely positive start to the project and we're happy.

watch out for....
split vs atomic jam. may 1st.
retro_vert 005. june 12th
plus some special one off nights in the summer.

thanks for your support.
split/rv crew.Â*

**ampassasinbirmingham** · 10-02-2004, 07:27 PM

saw the split aj thing in the toilet. wonder what thats gonna be like?

anyone got any info????????? :?:

**paranoid666** · 10-02-2004, 07:51 PM

Split is there any chance your gonna have another boat party in the summer.
Cant beat bombing up and down the river thames drinking beer and listening to techno.

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