well no, i don't mean one particualr long sub bass note, but we have done that regularly and then varied other elements ie freq/res etc etc....

i basically mean the shorter the loop of the bassline, the harder the track sounds. but then a one bar sub bass loop needs to sound VERY interesting - perhaps by using some nice quick notes or other changes like i said.... there's no limit to what you can do to that bass!!!

i personal think the subbass is the most important part of techno.