Wilson & Fridell - Tonal Path

[The Overfiend]

Ok, so I've given this thread a glance.
I know all parties involved, and have loads of respect for each individual in the discussion. Glenn, you opened many a door for me, and been a damn good mentor in some situations. Jamie, you're my ****in' dude man, and you've always pushed me to do what I want to, no matter the reaction. Mattias, you are one of the coolest, down to earth, non-egotistical and talented producers I've had the pleasure to get to know, as well as release on my now defunct label. I have loads of love for each one of you, what connected all of us, is techno. What bought us all to this forum, is techno.

As of right now, I feel techno is evolving.
A lot of techno fans/artists, including myself feel like techno has lost the plot.
Especially those of us who came in loving the speed, and the agression of it, but the rawness of it. Techno has since evolved and become a gateway for bad producers to become exceptional soundmen.
Some producers feel the only way to flush out the bad music, is to hold techno up to the same high quality production standards as say a commercial genre.
Others feel their primary influences have changed the story, and have gone from writing anger bangers to some highly intelligent stuff. The only problem with that, is that there is an entirely empty middle ground now.

Jamie, who I know personally, like myself has that aggressive, animal side, that when we are not listening to techno, it's full on death metal.

Where as Glenn, who is also the homie, has worked on some secret projects with some lush, highly evolved soundscapes, that would make Philip Glass jizz his pants.

Mattias, has even done some dope ass house.

It's really the individual tastes, that seem to not be meeting eye to eye here.

I understand all points, but I will say everyone has a point.

I too wish Glenn wrote tracks like the Coding Sequence Ep, but people evolve into their own potential.
Same for you Mattias, I loved Cobalt, and the way you've mastered the Swedish flavor, but you too, have evolved.
Jamie, you played hands down one of the beastliest live pa's I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing, and even though you dropped iced tea on my living room floor, we love ya to death in our house!

We're all good people here, we all genuinely love this music.
I think some of us really, really, really miss the guts of techno, while others are definitely involved with the pushing evolution of the genre further.

[rhythmtech]

We're all good people here, we all genuinely love this music.
I think some of us really, really, really miss the guts of techno.

+1

ive met you jamie a couple of times and you are a sound dude, funny ****er too and glenn is a gentleman and one of the most genuine artists on the scene.

and feck it, sure music is all objective anyway...

[Mattias_Fridell]

Ok, so I've given this thread a glance.
I know all parties involved, and have loads of respect for each individual in the discussion. Glenn, you opened many a door for me, and been a damn good mentor in some situations. Jamie, you're my ****in' dude man, and you've always pushed me to do what I want to, no matter the reaction. Mattias, you are one of the coolest, down to earth, non-egotistical and talented producers I've had the pleasure to get to know, as well as release on my now defunct label. I have loads of love for each one of you, what connected all of us, is techno. What bought us all to this forum, is techno.

As of right now, I feel techno is evolving.
A lot of techno fans/artists, including myself feel like techno has lost the plot.
Especially those of us who came in loving the speed, and the agression of it, but the rawness of it. Techno has since evolved and become a gateway for bad producers to become exceptional soundmen.
Some producers feel the only way to flush out the bad music, is to hold techno up to the same high quality production standards as say a commercial genre.
Others feel their primary influences have changed the story, and have gone from writing anger bangers to some highly intelligent stuff. The only problem with that, is that there is an entirely empty middle ground now.

Jamie, who I know personally, like myself has that aggressive, animal side, that when we are not listening to techno, it's full on death metal.

Where as Glenn, who is also the homie, has worked on some secret projects with some lush, highly evolved soundscapes, that would make Philip Glass jizz his pants.

Mattias, has even done some dope ass house.

It's really the individual tastes, that seem to not be meeting eye to eye here.

I understand all points, but I will say everyone has a point.

I too wish Glenn wrote tracks like the Coding Sequence Ep, but people evolve into their own potential.
Same for you Mattias, I loved Cobalt, and the way you've mastered the Swedish flavor, but you too, have evolved.
Jamie, you played hands down one of the beastliest live pa's I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing, and even though you dropped iced tea on my living room floor, we love ya to death in our house!

We're all good people here, we all genuinely love this music.
I think some of us really, really, really miss the guts of techno, while others are definitely involved with the pushing evolution of the genre further.

Well spoken brother, thanks !