The BOA Guide To Real Hard Techno

[gunjack]

damn that tune kinda sucks compared to older stuff :(

[MITA]

Damned you be the future!!!

[teknorich]

damn that tune kinda sucks compared to older stuff :(

+1

[Loop]

-1 Very nice stuff.

See problem here is people want what they want, most of the time they want the shit they heard when they were on their techno honeymoon, and if todays producers don't want to write over compressed, dirty, aggressive music then it sucks? This why your hard techno music is stagnant and the events total bad tempered sausage festivals. Most people either got old, tired, too ****ed up or moved on.
Come on someone post up some NEW hard techno like those Slovaks and the Tonal Path shit, theres nothing wrong imho with a bit of warmth and tension.

[gunjack]

mate i didn't expect dalo to be making the same music for the last 5 years that he maid before, but i also didnt expect cheesey prog melodies and boring 4x4 drums either. that tune sucked.

[teknorich]

I do like a lot of modern Techno, but I also don't see it as being hard. That's the key word here - HARD. It is definitely Techno, and it is very nicely produced at that, but it isn't hard.

My Dad listens to Rhythm & Blues. He has always loved Blues; it is the music he really feels in his blood. So when he sees on TV that nowadays R&B means Destiny's Child, rather than Robert Johnson et al, do you think he should just say "Yeah, you're right, this is R&B. This is what R&B is these days, so I will blindly accept it because I am told that this is R&B, so it must be"? NO WAY! He still listens to the music he always loved, even if no fcker produces it any more, and he still knows that is the real R&B. He's not gonna accept some lightweight poppy bullsh*t as being R&B, cos he knows it is not.

You listen to Destiny's Child's music, and you can easily see it isn't real R&B. The B stands for Blues, and I don't hear ANY blues in their songs. It's all about how sexy they are, how independent and strong they are etc etc ad nauseum. So, if ya got no blues, how can you be R&B = Rhythm and Blues? Just like a lot of this music is techno but it isn't hard, so how can it be Hard Techno?!

Anyways, I think we are seeing a slow resurgence of real harder Techno, with labels like "We like it hard" springing up (and planning a new night at Tresor) and new releases coming out which, instead of pandering to the whole "minimal masquerading as techno" thing which has been going on for the last few years, are actually a genuine harder techno sound; such as the new Machine Code release from Dean Rodell. I think it's gonna be a while before we see a lot of artists making the real harder sounds again, but it is happening slowly, so watch this space...

[ritaheed]

I do like a lot of modern Techno, but I also don't see it as being hard. That's the key word here - HARD. It is definitely Techno, and it is very nicely produced at that, but it isn't hard.

My Dad listens to Rhythm & Blues. He has always loved Blues; it is the music he really feels in his blood. So when he sees on TV that nowadays R&B means Destiny's Child, rather than Robert Johnson et al, do you think he should just say "Yeah, you're right, this is R&B. This is what R&B is these days, so I will blindly accept it because I am told that this is R&B, so it must be"? NO WAY! He still listens to the music he always loved, even if no fcker produces it any more, and he still knows that is the real R&B. He's not gonna accept some lightweight poppy bullsh*t as being R&B, cos he knows it is not.

You listen to Destiny's Child's music, and you can easily see it isn't real R&B. The B stands for Blues, and I don't hear ANY blues in their songs. It's all about how sexy they are, how independent and strong they are etc etc ad nauseum. So, if ya got no blues, how can you be R&B = Rhythm and Blues? Just like a lot of this music is techno but it isn't hard, so how can it be Hard Techno?!

Anyways, I think we are seeing a slow resurgence of real harder Techno, with labels like "We like it hard" springing up (and planning a new night at Tresor) and new releases coming out which, instead of pandering to the whole "minimal masquerading as techno" thing which has been going on for the last few years, are actually a genuine harder techno sound; such as the new Machine Code release from Dean Rodell. I think it's gonna be a while before we see a lot of artists making the real harder sounds again, but it is happening slowly, so watch this space...

nicely put mate :)

[The Overfiend]

Definitely well put bro.

YouTube - Wet Musik - Will e Tell & Simon Digby Pt 5

[The Overfiend]

-1 Very nice stuff.

See problem here is people want what they want, most of the time they want the shit they heard when they were on their techno honeymoon, and if todays producers don't want to write over compressed, dirty, aggressive music then it sucks? This why your hard techno music is stagnant and the events total bad tempered sausage festivals. Most people either got old, tired, too ****ed up or moved on.
Come on someone post up some NEW hard techno like those Slovaks and the Tonal Path shit, theres nothing wrong imho with a bit of warmth and tension.

Nothing wrong with the stuff you mentioned bro.
Fair play to your comment as well man.
but I will say warmth and tension..... and hard :)

YouTube - Surgeon - Atol ( 1995 )

[MITA]

STOP.
and listen
Subsequent Records At Juno Download

[Numeric]

YouTube - Surgeon - Atol ( 1995 )

i still have that record too, lovely track, and magneze is a true classic

there's loads of quality techno around like that at the moment though

[The Overfiend]

but I will say warmth and tension..... and hard :)

YouTube - Andrei Morant - Turn Down [Logan Square EP - A1]

[The Overfiend]

Hey, ummm

YouTube - R.N.D. Technologies - Ultrafilter(50% Filtered Mix)(Gaetek Remix)

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Ben Sims vs. Deetron - Hardgroove 003.5

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Ben Sims - Storm (DJ Shufflemaster Remix)

Hard
and oh shit, congas!
The Devil!!!

[qUE]

Well since we've gone into naming old tracks, one of my favourites has to be Robert Armani - Destruction on the Spectacular album. Aparently it's rare, but I expect you can pick it up on one of the vinyl trading sites (not advertising anything :)

Can't find it on 'tube though :/

[qUE]

YouTube - TOBIAS SCHMIDT - TAKE THATT

Hah and this, which I've played out way too much :)

[qUE]

Aparently this is Moby!?! If it is, WTF.

Not necassarily one of my favourites, but banging all the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puc8a6qAlCg
YouTube - Moby/Voodoo Child Horses part 2

[qUE]

This era of Beltram as JB3 was pretty solid :)

YouTube - Joey Beltram - Game Form

[ritaheed]

STOP.
and listen
Subsequent Records At Juno Download

banging label!! need more labels like this