the problem with TO is that he will inevitably become a cancer. pacman may be an even bigger fool, but he didn't damage the locker room dynamic like TO. no one really gave a f*ck about pacman. but TO tore that offense in two. sure they got some production out of him--philadelphia and SF got even more--but it was always bound to happen, just like it will happen in cincy if they keep him around long enough. the guy is an internet troll come to life.

as for jerry, i guess my point is that it goes beyond being a GM...he just can't not get involved, and his involvement is usually self-destructive for the team.