arsenal vs barca

[Will]

And of course Arsenal have the likes of van Persie back from injury now, who's scored 12 goals in his last 10 games and has the best strike rate in the Prem.

Only 4 players started at the Nou camp last season that are likely to start this season (Clichy, Sagna, Walcott and Nasri), and the subs that came on were Eboue and Eduardo, so a far weaker team than the one they're likely to face this time...

Old team, and subs

Bendtner
Nasri, Rosicky, Denilson, Diaby, Walcott
Clichy, Silvestre, Vermaelen, Sagna
Almunia

Subs: Eboue and Eduardo (the face we only used 2 subs shows how many injuries we had)

Probable team for this season

Van Persie
Nasri, Fabregas, Wilshere, Song, Walcott
Clichy, Koscielny, Djourou, Sagna
Szczesny

Probably subs: Arshavin, Chamakh, possibly Bendtner, Eboue et al.

So of the 4 players who are likely to start both games at the Nou Camp, 2 are playing much better this season, ie Nasri and Walcott, and then we should have the likes of Fabregas, van Persie, Wilshere, Koscielny and Szczesny to some in. Plus (hopefully at least) the likes of Silvestre, Almunia, Denilson and Rosicky will be nowhere near the first team as they're nowhere near good enough, the first 2 certainly.

A big part of the problem was a severe lack of confidence, but we've beaten Chelsea and now them, so that shouldn't be a problem.

So basically, a far inferior Arsenal team took the lead their last season, and the 2nd half, especially the last 15 minutes show we've learned how to play against a team that's far more technical than Man U, Chelsea and co, who we're used to playing, whereas they're used to playing against the 'continental' football we play, as all the team in the La Liga play that way.

[Numeric]

i like your optimism will but arsenal are not the favourites to progress, no matter how you choose to look at it

and you shouldn't put too much faith in the spanish football press, they are renowned for making stories out of nothing and are only printing mindless speculation to fill the pages of their rags, what are they basing their worries about barca on? the fact that they have only lost one league game all season? that they blew real madrid clean out of water in the first classico? that messi has scored over 40 goals this season?

arsenal surrendered a four goal lead at newcastle just a couple of weeks back, now you expect them to go to the nou camp and beat barca?

yeah you beat chelsea, but tbf chelsea have been awful this season (despite their good start), even liverpool beat them at stamford bridge a couple of weeks back

and yeah i do believe that united have the beating of arsenal, you haven't scored a win against us for two and a half years

[Will]

i like your optimism will but arsenal are not the favourites to progress, no matter how you choose to look at it

and you shouldn't put too much faith in the spanish football press, they are renowned for making stories out of nothing and are only printing mindless speculation to fill the pages of their rags, what are they basing their worries about barca on? the fact that they have only lost one league game all season? that they blew real madrid clean out of water in the first classico? that messi has scored over 40 goals this season?

arsenal surrendered a four goal lead at newcastle just a couple of weeks back, now you expect them to go to the nou camp and beat barca?

yeah you beat chelsea, but tbf chelsea have been awful this season (despite their good start), even liverpool beat them at stamford bridge a couple of weeks back

and yeah i do believe that united have the beating of arsenal, you haven't scored a win against us for two and a half years

If Barca are so good and we beat them, imagine what we'll do to a shit team like United! Arsenal are getting stronger all the time, with many talented young players, United are over reliant on their golden oldies who are in decline.

We were down to 10 men against Newcastle, and were complacent against Newcastle since we held a 4 goal lead and thought we had the game won.

Anyway, I think United will struggle against Marseille, never mind going up against 'the best team in the world'.

[Numeric]

arsenal fans do make me laugh

the most arrogant and deluded fans in the league

do you honestly think that united are a 's**t team'?

[Will]

arsenal fans do make me laugh

the most arrogant and deluded fans in the league

do you honestly think that united are a 's**t team'?

Firstly, you thought Arsenal didn't stand any chance in either leg, so shows how little you know. Secondly, shit compared to Barca, yes, obviously everything is relative, I don't mean shit in the same way that say, Wolves, are shit.

Journalists are talking about Man U potentially being the worst team to ever win the Prem, if they were to do it, though Man U have a false position in the league, just as Chelsea did earlier in the season.

[DarkYoung]

Firstly, you thought Arsenal didn't stand any chance in either leg, so shows how little you know.

don't worry mate, this guy knows very little of football but thinks he does, in this, as in all other matters.

in last season's boa fantasy football he did very poorly and then didn't even have the bottle to compete this year.

all talk i'm afraid dude.

i reckon Arsenal will go through shows how much c.o.prodigy and numeric know.

they only know the opinions of which newspaper they buy every morning.

[Numeric]

don't worry mate, this guy knows very little of football but thinks he does, in this, as in all other matters.

in last season's boa fantasy football he did very poorly and then didn't even have the bottle to compete this year.

all talk i'm afraid dude.

i reckon Arsenal will go through shows how much c.o.prodigy and numeric know.

they only know the opinions of which newspaper they buy every morning.

this from the man who has been supporting his team for all of three weeks

forgive me, you're clearly the oracle of all footballing knowledge

i honestly couldn't be arsed with the fantasy league tbh

[Will]

don't worry mate, this guy knows very little of football but thinks he does, in this, as in all other matters.

in last season's boa fantasy football he did very poorly and then didn't even have the bottle to compete this year.

all talk i'm afraid dude.

i reckon Arsenal will go through shows how much c.o.prodigy and numeric know.

they only know the opinions of which newspaper they buy every morning.

So it would seem... I see Numeric just accused me of what you accused him of, rather than forming an opinion on his own.

[Numeric]

Firstly, you thought Arsenal didn't stand any chance in either leg, so shows how little you know. Secondly, shit compared to Barca, yes, obviously everything is relative, I don't mean shit in the same way that say, Wolves, are shit.

Journalists are talking about Man U potentially being the worst team to ever win the Prem, if they were to do it, though Man U have a false position in the league, just as Chelsea did earlier in the season.

so what will that make arsenal then if they win it?

i think your problem is that you read too much about football and don't watch enough, try forming your own opinion instead of believing what is printed in the tabloids

[Will]

so what will that make arsenal then if they win it?

i think your problem is that you read too much about football and don't watch enough, try forming your own opinion instead of believing what is printed in the tabloids

What a silly thing to say, of course I form my own opinions, I just mention the journalists to reinforce my point.

If United win it, all the credit will go to Fergie, it will be his greatest achievement if he can win it with this team. Besides, Arsenal have had injuries and are a young team, they're a better side than they were at the start of the season... But United just have a knack of scraping results without playing well, doesn't mean they're a great team.

[DarkYoung]

And of course Arsenal have the likes of van Persie back from injury now, who's scored 12 goals in his last 10 games and has the best strike rate in the Prem.

Only 4 players started at the Nou camp last season that are likely to start this season (Clichy, Sagna, Walcott and Nasri), and the subs that came on were Eboue and Eduardo, so a far weaker team than the one they're likely to face this time...

Old team, and subs

Bendtner
Nasri, Rosicky, Denilson, Diaby, Walcott
Clichy, Silvestre, Vermaelen, Sagna
Almunia

Subs: Eboue and Eduardo (the face we only used 2 subs shows how many injuries we had)

Probable team for this season

Van Persie
Nasri, Fabregas, Wilshere, Song, Walcott
Clichy, Koscielny, Djourou, Sagna
Szczesny

Probably subs: Arshavin, Chamakh, possibly Bendtner, Eboue et al.

So of the 4 players who are likely to start both games at the Nou Camp, 2 are playing much better this season, ie Nasri and Walcott, and then we should have the likes of Fabregas, van Persie, Wilshere, Koscielny and Szczesny to some in. Plus (hopefully at least) the likes of Silvestre, Almunia, Denilson and Rosicky will be nowhere near the first team as they're nowhere near good enough, the first 2 certainly.

A big part of the problem was a severe lack of confidence, but we've beaten Chelsea and now them, so that shouldn't be a problem.

So basically, a far inferior Arsenal team took the lead their last season, and the 2nd half, especially the last 15 minutes show we've learned how to play against a team that's far more technical than Man U, Chelsea and co, who we're used to playing, whereas they're used to playing against the 'continental' football we play, as all the team in the La Liga play that way.

i think you should be optimistic.

arsenal need to play for a 1 - 1 result in 90 minutes.

they don't need a win.

Fabregas has even't hit form this season. I think this could be the match where he turns it on.

[C.O.Prodigy]

i think you should be optimistic.

arsenal need to play for a 1 - 1 result in 90 minutes.

they don't need a win.

Fabregas has even't hit form this season. I think this could be the match where he turns it on.

The question is whether Arsenal are better then Barcelona and would anyone like to see Barca in the semis of the champions league?

I think probably both Arsenal and Barcelona deserve to move on.

Both teams have something to prove, I think that Barcelona will advance though.