The thing is I can get alot of ideas down within Ableton, its so easy to do... for example my cacaphonator synth - I hit record in Ableton, jam away and then cut up my synth sounds - real easy, quick, enjoyable. But from here I can drag that produced loop into maschine and jam with my fingers making up kick drum/perc loops.... or I use maschine trigger off that loop within ableton while I jam or play loops ive already made up....

Maschine is basically drum a machine/controller/live tool

like having and an electribe and apc 40 in one

Cheers fuzz - yeah man stick your tunes up and give us a shout