Best Motherboard etc.

[DJZeMig_L]

Nice ;)


Ramm ?? sorry can't answer that 1 :(

Z

[miasma man]

Matrox aren't meant to be the best graphics cards anymore, a few years ago they were.

You could probably get a better performing graphics card from ATI or Nvidia Geforce. Worth considering. A lot of the mid to high spec graphics cards from these guys all have dual headed capabaility as standard.

[MARKEG]

the matrox cards are the ones most music ppl recommend as far as i'm aware. don't know exactly why this but i feel the one's you've mentined are more games cards???????????

most music pc specialists actually go with matrox. there must be a reason.....

if anyone knows otherwise i'd love to know - i only have about 2 days to go before my pc is built.

[MARKEG]

but yes mate i know you are a graphic designer and would know about these things. you've got me worried now!!! ARRGGHHHH!!! LOL.

[miasma man]

Yeh, that seems to be true actually - I don't know why musicans seem to use Matrox graphics cards more. I upgraded my PC last summer and I though Matrox was meant to be the best and checked a few out but was told by the friendly computer guy in the shop that Matrox aren't meant to be that good anymore. He said for the same or similar price you can get a better performing card from ATI or Nvidia.

I don't really know, does anyone know why Matrox seem to be the preferred choice for musicians PC's?

Will the choice of graphics card affect the music side of things? I tend to think not, but I'm no computer expert?

[Barely Human]

The Nvidea cards ore the ones to get at the moment. But just remember, if your not running games, then there is not much point in getting a stupidly good graphics card. Most graphics cards are fundamentally the same when it comes to running desk top applications, they only make a difference when you are running 3d objects.

[Antinoise]

Something I wrote in another post:

"Video Card: Matrox line of cards are the best for dual displays. Their software and drivers rock for adjusting the dual display capabilities. I have the P750 (which is a bit expensive) running 3 displays. It rocks. For 2 displays you can use get away with their older line of G-cards. G550 or G450... (Both are really cheap now and are considered the standard by many for dual displays users).. .... All that said, if you want to use you computer for gaming as well as audio, I'd stay away from the Matrox cards. They are not gaming cards. Many cards now days have dual display capabilities and work for gaming (NVIDIA ir ATI..wide range depending on $).. "
....

Of all the computers I have, the matrox handels dual/tri displays the best. There drivers and software are tops and the cards are streamlined. It's still the choise for audio and video editors running dual displays...Get and NVidia or ATI if it will also be used for gaming or CAD. They are more expensive and due to all the bells and whistles they tax the system a little more.. but if you need the power then thats the way you have to go.

oh... and my matrox machine runs things like photoshop just fine as well.. its only gaming and CAD I have use my graphics power machine.

[Antinoise]

re: memory - it's Samsung. is this reputable?

It should be.. You mainly just want to stay away from generic ram.. However if you are searching for the top type of RAM, that would be Corsair. They have a top of the line brand that is called TwinX (or XMS Series). They are matched pairs of chips. So 1024 ram would get you 2 tested matched 512's. There are also different latencies in RAM. CL2.0 is the lowest. ......

TWINX1024-3200LLPRO XMS3200 1024MB 2-3-2-6 2x184 DIMM Black XMS ProSeries - Would represent the best thing you could get....

I’m not sure how expensive that particular ram is.. Any of the XMS series with a “Low Latency-LL” title would be stellar.

links
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/xms.html#twinx
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/...-3200llpro.pdf

[MARKEG]

Well what can i say, you guys are being an amazing help. If and when i get mine working fine (pleeeeeeeeease god !!!!!!!) i'll post the final spec on here of course (hehehehe). but a few things:

Is Samsung OK for memory or should i go and kick up a fuss for this for this Corsair stuff?

Is Matrox OK or should I go for something else?

Send me links guys as to why ppl say these dont work....

Anyone?!!?!

[gustavo]

Is Samsung OK for memory or should i go and kick up a fuss for this Corsair stuff?
thats hard to answer(my personal view is)i take things seriously and will buy the best "i can afford"
corsairs better than samsung so its up2 u.





Is Matrox OK or should I go for something else?
(i have g550 dh for 1 year and 0 probs)
(i agree with antinoise post i doubt anyone willmake a better post on that(graphics)

[Antinoise]

Re: Ram...
Its hard to say.. I mean its definitely splitting hairs at this point. You are building quite a bitchin machine and either way you going to be rockin. Samsung will be fine... but the Corsiar XMS would squeeze the last bit out of the system possible. We are not talking about the different in a 1ghz and 2ghz system though. We are talking about a fraction of a % to maybe 1-2%.

When you’re in a heavy tax the system session it might be where it makes the difference. I mean.. you would have a better performance gain if you got the newest Intel 3.4ghz. But the same issue applies of getting the newest top thing is quite a bit more expensive for fractions of gain. The xtra stability of the high grade matched pairs might be the real important issue here. Just question the computer maker about possibilities and price. If its $ issue... then go Samsung and don't sweat it. Your fine!

[StoQ]

mniam, nice config, sounds really good Mark

[dan the acid man]

i would personally go for corsair memory, and i agree with replacing the sony drives, iv'e had some real problems with sony's not reading some cd's.

[audioinjection]

OK so here's what I'm getting... (minus my motu 828)

• Antec Sonata Piano Black Silent computer case with 380W quiet PSU
• ASUS Main board, P4P800 Deluxe Intel 865 chip with Firewire, USB 2.0, SATA, & IDE connections.
• Intel Pentium 4, 3.0GHz, Hyper Threading processor.
• 2X 512MB DDR400 memory.
• 1x 36GB 10,000rpm “RAPTOR” SATA HDD
• 1x 70GB 10,000rpm “RAPTOR” SATA HDD
• MATROX G550 Dual Head graphics card
• Sony DVD-Rom drive
• Sony DVD +/- RW with NERO S/W
• Floppy Disk drive
• Windows XP Pro
• Labour

What's this spec like then?

I thought you used Mac?

[MARKEG]

yeah i do also.

re: memory. here's what the bloke e-mailed me and told me:

Dear Mark,

Have noted your instructions .

Re Corsair memory - this type of memory is really meant for overclockers. It is fast but in my opinion not necessarily stable. I think your need is stability inn as much as it is power (as opposed to speed). I would not really recommend it.

what do you reckon.

[gustavo]

i reckon u could have 10 guys sayn that and 10 sayn the opposite

i mean of course i think its not being samsung or corsair wich will make the diff betwen being top prod. or not
or betwen havin superfastsyst or not

if u really want u must guide yrself by specs comparisons ,independent tests regarding perf and stability.

its hard cause there r millions of possible software configs (even with the same hardw)works for some doesnt for others u know...

i mean if yr hesitant bout spending more buy samsung if it suits yr needs great if not patience happens to all

[dan the acid man]

it is an overclockers memory but im pretty certain its as stable if not more so than samsung memory, of course if it's overclocked its not going to be as stable. At the end of the day though samsung is still very good memory so there's not much in it either way. sorry if thats confused you

[miasma man]

Regards my previous post about Matrox vs ATI / Nvidea I was thinkin of graphics applications (CAD, animations, 3D etc) so yeah the post from Antinoise seems to be knowledgable enough (more than I know).

Good luck dude - hope you're not gettin too confused with the differing opinions out there.

PS - I think TDK or Philips are meant to be the bestest CDRW & DVD burners and readers etc. They are also meant to be the best manufacturers of CD's as well...

[MARKEG]

wicked thanks guys!

isn't this just so complicated. i mean you buy a mac and you know what you're getting. just a shame about the availability of software. if it wasn't for that i'd be 100% mac.

[Antinoise]

Don't sweat the memory.. Like I said before. You are down to splitting hairs.

isn't this just so complicated. i mean you buy a mac and you know what you're getting.

ya.. on overpriced under powered machine that has a degree in marketing and a minor in computing. This new machine will smoke in speed and 'mac' will soon be a distant memory for you.