Signatures

[death on a stick]

I agree, I don't know what the fuss is about.

[Patrick]

:lol:

i go on another site which on my personal settings page i have a choice to be able to hide Signatures in Forums,however i duno if that would be to much trouble to sort out on boa..........just an idea.

Aye, that's the thing ! If we had the option in our profiles to turn them off, then fair enough, I wouldn't give a toss about what size or what images people used. But having them on screen all the time, after every post in a thread, does mean that I for one can't use this forum so much in work time - and I know a lot of other people in the same boat. I don't think anybody 'moaning' wants to restrict anyones freedom of expression - it would just be nice to have a choice whether we had them rammed down our throats all the time or not.

Yo, admin, can that be sorted ?

[Esox Lucius]

I have to say that is mildy amusing death on a stick :lol:

[Esox Lucius]

the huge avatar & signature that is ;)

[WEZ]

to be honest I couldn't care less what people have as their signature & the size of it, I don't let things so petty annoy me.

i love you :lol:

[WEZ]

i do recall n-one having avatars or signatures that big , dont be so silly ! :lol:

[DJ NUNYA]

havnt you lot stopped bitching yet

[~cheeky~]

doesnt look like it ah.
i think guys are more bitchy than us girls ;)

[death on a stick]

Just making a point, although as usual it's lost on the pondlife. :roll:

[WEZ]

Just making a point, although as usual it's lost on the pondlife. :roll:

:lol: :lol:

[DJ NUNYA]

doesnt look like it ah.
i think guys are more bitchy than us girls ;)

i know tell me about it its sad i put in my two pence and thats it

[Patrick]

havnt you lot stopped bitching yet

:roll:
A very constructive and helpful response, cheers.
Why do some people have so much difficulty grasping a very simple point ? Alls I'm saying is it would be nice to have a choice in our profiles, like on a lot of other forums, to choose whether we want signatures displayed or not.

I'll try and spell this out again, nice and slow.
Forums are places for people to discuss and share info about music they like.
They are also a useful place for people to advertise and discuss events.
As such, people can and will advertise new releases etc, and also up and coming events. All good for small labels, small promoters etc. who can't afford big budget advertising.
O.k. still with me ? All simple so far.

Many people use these forums at work and in college. For many of them it's the only reasonable option - surprisingly, and I know it's difficult to believe, but many people's mums haven't shelled out for them to have broadband in their bedrooms. So work/college time is their only chance to share in this information. Most college and work places allow some surfing time, but not all day, and most, except a very few, will have some sort of restriction on the type of content that can be viewed. If a site very obviously looks like a forum or chat room, a lot of bosses are going to have problems with that. They are of the opinion that they pay people to do their jobs, not to spend all day chatting on the internet. I know ! Bastards !
So having options to tailor a site to make it look as discreet as possible makes a huge amount of sense, especially as Mark EG has been asking how we can make sections of this forum more popular and encourage more users to post. This doesn't stop people from having signatures if they want them, nor does it stop people from viewing them when they are at home, or in offices with understanding bosses etc. It just gives them another choice.
This section of the forum (Bugs/Features) is for those types of suggestions. This is just one such suggestion - it is not, as you wrongly accuse, bitching. It's a simple suggestion to the admin that may lead to more people being able to use the site more often if he can implement it.

Also, at a time when the entire underground music industry is in recession, with distributors and labels having to shut down, it makes even more sense to make it easier for wage earners (i.e the people with the most disposable income to buy tunes and to support events) to have access to that information and to make it less of a ball-ache for them to be able to interact with like-minded individuals. Every single person who chooses not to use this site because it isn't work safe is a potential punter lost to someone advertising an event in their area, or a potential sale lost to a record label, if they don't get that info.

[Barely Human]

I really dont see some of the argument here. Pictures do not slow the board down. Not for the text that you are reading anyway! When you click on a link, it downloads the html, and displays the text, then it downloads the pictures from where the html tells it to. If your really that bothered, then dont post! This board has been going for years, and you come on here and want to change it for yourself???? Whats that all about. This board is about being part of a comunity, and if you cant settle in and be part of that, then there is really no point in you being here.

No offence intended mate, but i think you need to think before you post.

ps. On the fact of setting the board up so you can turn off signitures if you want - If you have ever set up your own board, then you will no how hard, and how long it can take to implement these sorts of things. Not to mention the effects it can have on the board in the long run. I know mark os a very busy man, and with the lack of sinner being around, i dowt there is anyone to do this anyway. So basically you either like it, or lump it.

[Patrick]

Iq, who is that response direced at ?

[Patrick]

direced = directed

*no edit button*

[Barely Human]

Anyone who argued the points i brought up. Im not trying to offend anyone either, just putting my veiw accross. I can see the points of both sides of this argument, and im not gonna sit here arguing the point of, oh -that looks shit, its self promotion, blah, blah, blah, becuase thats pointless. They are opinions and arguing them in stupid. But, i will make my veiws known on the facts of the speed isuse, and implementing the avatar on or off button. ;)

[Barely Human]

Oh, and this is the coding that would need to be implimented to get a signature and avatar on or off button for any user to select -

#-----[ SQL ]------------------------------------------
#
ALTER TABLE phpbb_users ADD COLUMN user_showavatars tinyint(1) default '1';
ALTER TABLE phpbb_users ADD COLUMN user_showsignatures tinyint(1) default '1';
#
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#
includes/usercp_register.php
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$allowsmilies = ( isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['allowsmilies']) ) ? ( ($HTTP_POST_VARS['allowsmilies']) ? TRUE : 0 ) : $board_config['allow_smilies'];
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$showavatars = ( isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['showavatars']) ) ? ( ($HTTP_POST_VARS['showavatars']) ? TRUE : 0 ) : TRUE;
$showsignatures = ( isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['showsignatures']) ) ? ( ($HTTP_POST_VARS['showsignatures']) ? TRUE : 0 ) : TRUE;
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$allowsmilies = ( isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['allowsmilies']) ) ? ( ($HTTP_POST_VARS['allowsmilies']) ? TRUE : 0 ) : $userdata['user_allowsmile'];
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$showavatars = ( isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['showavatars']) ) ? ( ($HTTP_POST_VARS['showavatars']) ? TRUE : 0 ) : $userdata['user_showavatars'];
$showsignatures = ( isset($HTTP_POST_VARS['showsignatures']) ) ? ( ($HTTP_POST_VARS['showsignatures']) ? TRUE : 0 ) : $userdata['user_showsignatures'];
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$sql = "UPDATE " . USERS_TABLE . "
SET
#
#-----[ IN-LINE FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
user_allowsmile = $allowsmilies,
#
#-----[ IN-LINE AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
user_showavatars = $showavatars, user_showsignatures = $showsignatures,
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
// Get current date
//
$sql = "INSERT INTO "
#
#-----[ IN-LINE FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
user_allowsmile,
#
#-----[ IN-LINE AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
user_showavatars, user_showsignatures,
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
VALUES ($user_id,
#
#-----[ IN-LINE FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$allowsmilies,
#
#-----[ IN-LINE AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$showavatars, $showsignatures,
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$allowsmilies = $userdata['user_allowsmile'];
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$showavatars = $userdata['user_showavatars'];
$showsignatures = $userdata['user_showsignatures'];
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
display_avatar_gallery($mode,
#
#-----[ IN-LINE FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$allowsmilies,
#
#-----[ IN-LINE AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$showavatars, $showsignatures,
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
'ALWAYS_ALLOW_SMILIES_NO' => ( !$allowsmilies ) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
'SHOW_AVATARS_YES' => ( $showavatars ) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
'SHOW_AVATARS_NO' => ( !$showavatars ) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
'SHOW_SIGNATURES_YES' => ( $showsignatures ) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
'SHOW_SIGNATURES_NO' => ( !$showsignatures ) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
'L_ALWAYS_ADD_SIGNATURE' => $lang['Always_add_sig'],
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
'L_SHOW_AVATARS' => $lang['Show_avatars'],
'L_SHOW_SIGNATURES' => $lang['Show_signatures'],
#
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#
language/lang_english/lang_main.php
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
//
// That's all, Folks!
#
#-----[ BEFORE, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$lang['Show_avatars'] = 'Show Avatars in Topic';
$lang['Show_signatures'] = 'Show Signatures in Topic';

#
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#
admin/admin_users.php
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$allowsmilies = ( isset( $HTTP_POST_VARS['allowsmilies']) ) ? intval( $HTTP_POST_VARS['allowsmilies'] ) : $board_config['allow_smilies'];
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$showavatars = ( isset( $HTTP_POST_VARS['showavatars']) ) ? intval( $HTTP_POST_VARS['showavatars'] ) : $board_config['showavatars'];
$showsignatures = ( isset( $HTTP_POST_VARS['showsignatures']) ) ? intval( $HTTP_POST_VARS['showsignatures'] ) : $board_config['showsignatures'];
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$sql = "UPDATE " . USERS_TABLE . "
SET
#
#-----[ IN-LINE FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
user_allowsmile = $allowsmilies,
#
#-----[ IN-LINE AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
user_showavatars = $showavatars, user_showsignatures = $showsignatures,
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$allowsmilies = $this_userdata['user_allowsmile'];
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$showavatars = $this_userdata['user_showavatars'];
$showsigatures = $this_userdata['user_showsignatures'];
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
$s_hidden_fields .= '<input type="hidden" name="allowsmilies" value="' . $allowsmilies . '" />';
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
$s_hidden_fields .= '<input type="hidden" name="showavatars" value="' . $showavatars . '" />';
$s_hidden_fields .= '<input type="hidden" name="showsignatures" value="' . $showsignatures . '" />';
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
'ALWAYS_ALLOW_SMILIES_NO' => (!$allowsmilies) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
'SHOW_AVATARS_YES' => ($showavatars) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
'SHOW_AVATARS_NO' => (!$showavatars) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
'SHOW_SIGNATURES_YES' => ($showsignatures) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
'SHOW_SIGNATURES_NO' => (!$showsignatures) ? 'checked="checked"' : '',
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
'L_ALWAYS_ALLOW_SMILIES' => $lang['Always_smile'],
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
'L_SHOW_AVATARS' => $lang['Show_avatars'],
'L_SHOW_SIGNATURES' => $lang['Show_signatures'],
#
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#
templates/subSilver/admin/user_edit_body.tpl
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
<input type="radio" name="allowsmilies" value="0" {ALWAYS_ALLOW_SMILIES_NO} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_NO}&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
&lt;tr>
&lt;td class="row1">&lt;span class="gen">{L_SHOW_AVATARS}:&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;td class="row2">
<input type="radio" name="showavatars" value="1" {SHOW_AVATARS_YES} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_YES}&lt;/span>
<input type="radio" name="showavatars" value="0" {SHOW_AVATARS_NO} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_NO}&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>
&lt;tr>
&lt;td class="row1">&lt;span class="gen">{L_SHOW_SIGNATURES}:&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;td class="row2">
<input type="radio" name="showsignatures" value="1" {SHOW_SIGNATURES_YES} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_YES}&lt;/span>
<input type="radio" name="showsignatures" value="0" {SHOW_SIGNATURES_NO} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_NO}&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>
#
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#
templates/subSilver/profile_add_body.tpl
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
<input type="radio" name="allowsmilies" value="0" {ALWAYS_ALLOW_SMILIES_NO} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_NO}&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
&lt;tr>
&lt;td class="row1">&lt;span class="gen">{L_SHOW_AVATARS}:&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;td class="row2">
<input type="radio" name="showavatars" value="1" {SHOW_AVATARS_YES} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_YES}&lt;/span>
<input type="radio" name="showavatars" value="0" {SHOW_AVATARS_NO} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_NO}&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>
&lt;tr>
&lt;td class="row1">&lt;span class="gen">{L_SHOW_SIGNATURES}:&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;td class="row2">
<input type="radio" name="showsignatures" value="1" {SHOW_SIGNATURES_YES} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_YES}&lt;/span>
<input type="radio" name="showsignatures" value="0" {SHOW_SIGNATURES_NO} />
&lt;span class="gen">{L_NO}&lt;/span>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>
#
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#
templates/subSilver/viewtopic_body.tpl
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
{postrow.POSTER_AVATAR}
#
#-----[ REPLACE WITH ]------------------------------------------
#

&lt;!-- BEGIN switch_showavatars -->

{postrow.POSTER_AVATAR}
&lt;!-- END switch_showavatars -->

#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
{postrow.SIGNATURE}
#
#-----[ REPLACE WITH ]------------------------------------------
#

&lt;!-- BEGIN switch_showsignatures -->
{postrow.SIGNATURE}
&lt;!-- END switch_showsignatures -->

#
#-----[ OPEN ]------------------------------------------
#
viewtopic.php
#
#-----[ FIND ]------------------------------------------
#
'U_POST_ID' => $postrow[$i]['post_id'])
);
#
#-----[ AFTER, ADD ]------------------------------------------
#
if ($userdata['user_showavatars'])
{
$template->assign_block_vars('postrow.switch_showavatars', array());
}
if ($userdata['user_showsignatures'])
{
$template->assign_block_vars('postrow.switch_showsignatures' , array());
}
#
#-----[ SAVE/CLOSE ALL FILES ]------------------------------------------
#
# EoM





So if mark has the time, and knows how to do this, then you can have it ;)

[DJ NUNYA]

havnt you lot stopped bitching yet

:roll:
A very constructive and helpful response, cheers.
Why do some people have so much difficulty grasping a very simple point ? Alls I'm saying is it would be nice to have a choice in our profiles, like on a lot of other forums, to choose whether we want signatures displayed or not.

I'll try and spell this out again, nice and slow.
Forums are places for people to discuss and share info about music they like.
They are also a useful place for people to advertise and discuss events.
As such, people can and will advertise new releases etc, and also up and coming events. All good for small labels, small promoters etc. who can't afford big budget advertising.
O.k. still with me ? All simple so far.

Many people use these forums at work and in college. For many of them it's the only reasonable option - surprisingly, and I know it's difficult to believe, but many people's mums haven't shelled out for them to have broadband in their bedrooms. So work/college time is their only chance to share in this information. Most college and work places allow some surfing time, but not all day, and most, except a very few, will have some sort of restriction on the type of content that can be viewed. If a site very obviously looks like a forum or chat room, a lot of bosses are going to have problems with that. They are of the opinion that they pay people to do their jobs, not to spend all day chatting on the internet. I know ! Bastards !
So having options to tailor a site to make it look as discreet as possible makes a huge amount of sense, especially as Mark EG has been asking how we can make sections of this forum more popular and encourage more users to post. This doesn't stop people from having signatures if they want them, nor does it stop people from viewing them when they are at home, or in offices with understanding bosses etc. It just gives them another choice.
This section of the forum (Bugs/Features) is for those types of suggestions. This is just one such suggestion - it is not, as you wrongly accuse, bitching. It's a simple suggestion to the admin that may lead to more people being able to use the site more often if he can implement it.

Also, at a time when the entire underground music industry is in recession, with distributors and labels having to shut down, it makes even more sense to make it easier for wage earners (i.e the people with the most disposable income to buy tunes and to support events) to have access to that information and to make it less of a ball-ache for them to be able to interact with like-minded individuals. Every single person who chooses not to use this site because it isn't work safe is a potential punter lost to someone advertising an event in their area, or a potential sale lost to a record label, if they don't get that info.

ok thankyou that was a lovly essy i see wat your saying and i hvae done sinse you started bitching in the first place so thank you for repeating it in a lovly sarcastic and bitchy way it is most welcome.
i see wat your saying about the sigs but it gets you noticed and can push peeps on to your website just to see wat its all about so i think in the long run just cos some peeps dont have proadband and stuff its not our problem and should be able to post wat we like

[Esox Lucius]

Alls I'm saying is it would be nice to have a choice in our profiles, like on a lot of other forums, to choose whether we want signatures displayed or not.

would be a good idea.

[Barely Human]

I think it would be a good idea aswell, but if you look at the coding above, its not the easiest thing to do in the world.