i think techno tries to put itself above the club scene but as long as ive been going out theres always been shady parties, shady people and shady business deals! i think music and the media in general suffers from fractionalization and now everyone can have their own niche of music whether its funky clubby liquid drum and bass or suicide heroin rock or hard ****ing techno ;) but there isnt enough of going out to a party and having your mind blown with something completely left field that you've never heard before and won't automatically label as "EWW THATS GAY." i dunno if artist collectives do much for artists outside the collective but i think more producers should be making chicago booty tech house schranz dubs!