Lady Dana vs Anne Savage..

[Si the Sigh]

So is Mark EG fu*king the scene over when he plays at Slinky then? I don't think so. Its all about educating more people with new sounds. Its how the scene can grow stronger & expand. So what if Anne Savage plays / played hard house? I'm pretty sure most of you who started mixing didn't just jump straight into the hard trance / hard style. I for one used to spin NRG / hard house / hardcore before I got into techno, then into hard trance, before heading back to techno. Are you going to slate me wanting to change styles? :?: More and more hard trance DJ's in the South West seem to be chucking techno into their sets at the moment. Are they band wagon jumpers? No. Its all about quality music at the end of the day.

[TechnoRaver]

Mark eg knows his shit, and would play proper hardstyle. Anne savage on the other hand would more than likely play the cheesiest shit she could get her hands on, giving it loads of publicity, thus people thinking hardstyle is shit and not even giving the proper hardstyle djs a chance. I understand we have to educate people in order for newcomers to be attracted to are scene but Anne Savage would be the last person id want to educate n e one on Hardstyle.
Also I never slated anyone for mixing different styles. Of course I understand that peoples musical tastes are gonna change, people can mix what they want.
All im saying is anne savage mixing hardstyle, probably not really knowing what its all about would be bad.

[Yoshimitsu]

Mark eg knows his shit, and would play proper hardstyle. Anne savage on the other hand would more than likely play the cheesiest shit she could get her hands on, giving it loads of publicity, thus people thinking hardstyle is shit and not even giving the proper hardstyle djs a chance. I understand we have to educate people in order for newcomers to be attracted to are scene but Anne Savage would be the last person id want to educate n e one on Hardstyle.
Also I never slated anyone for mixing different styles. Of course I understand that peoples musical tastes are gonna change, people can mix what they want.
All im saying is anne savage mixing hardstyle, probably not really knowing what its all about would be bad.

Well put :clap:

[DJ Corbzy]

Anne Savage :roll: .....what next...

[Si the Sigh]

Anne savage on the other hand would more than likely play the cheesiest shit she could get her hands on, giving it loads of publicity, thus people thinking hardstyle is shit and not even giving the proper hardstyle djs a chance.

If shes playing it & people are listening to it, then not many people can be thinking its shit.

You say, "give the proper hardstyle DJ's a chance". Like who? At the end of the day, weather you like her or not, Anne Savage CAN mix, so if shes playing quality tunes & people want to see her still, whats the problem? Surely her hammering out hardstyle & getting people into it is a good thing?

[DJRazza]

Anne savage on the other hand would more than likely play the cheesiest shit she could get her hands on, giving it loads of publicity, thus people thinking hardstyle is shit and not even giving the proper hardstyle djs a chance.

If shes playing it & people are listening to it, then not many people can be thinking its shit.

You say, "give the proper hardstyle DJ's a chance". Like who? At the end of the day, weather you like her or not, Anne Savage CAN mix, so if shes playing quality tunes & people want to see her still, whats the problem? Surely her hammering out hardstyle & getting people into it is a good thing?

im with u all the way on this si :lol:

[TechnoRaver]

What i mean by give proper hardstyle djs a chance is, if she plays shit hardsyle to her crowd, theyll hear that and think thats what hardstyles about. Then they would be alot less likely to listen to mark eg which would not be good for the scene.
being honest I have no idea what she plays and if people like it, so at the moment I am kinda making assumptions.

[Si the Sigh]

Look at Guyver, proper hard houser, knocks out an awesome track (IMO), You'll know it. Loads of people bought that. If a producer can cross over, why not a DJ?

[Yoshimitsu]

Look at Guyver, proper hard houser, knocks out an awesome track (IMO), You'll know it. Loads of people bought that. If a producer can cross over, why not a DJ?

Yeh but I think the point hes trin 2 make is that the tracks she will prob play r not gonna be awesome just a proper cheese fest so the punters who hear this for the 1st time will not get a proper picture of wot hardstyles about

[TechnoRaver]

youve got it josh.

[Yoshimitsu]

youve got it josh.

;)

[Tim Hidgem]

I don't think Annes playing to much Hardstyle at the mo. That track with Gaz West isn't Hardstyle so I've been told.

She made her mark in Hard House scene and would be stupid to jump striaght over to Hardstyle as she risks upsetting everyone and everything that has got her were she is today (unless they too have complety done the same). She may be playing the "odd" hardstyle track but then again who isn't at the mo.

I don't think its anything to worry about.

There is a new track coming out on Nukleuz Black: Dark by Design and Alex Kidd - Eye of the Demon.

I gotta say its awful. Proberly the worst dbd track I've heard so far!! :clap:

I would love you know this baords thoughts.

[Voorheez]

Last time I heard Anne play, she played a huge range of styles from funky house through to hard trance, sort of like Judge Jules. I don't think she's really been a 100% hard house Dj for quite a while now. I think she's perfectly within her rights to change genres, the person she's billed with here, Lady Dana is a former hardcore DJ, how is that any different?

The fact is hardstyle was influenced by hard house, so it's really not surprising that former hard house DJ's have or will take a shine to it. The similarities in genres are growing by the day - it is too easy to produce, the market is flooded with extremely bad productions, and the quality standard is going dramatically downhill just as happened to hard house. The majority of hardstyle today IS very cheesy and not very good, so you're right that this is the kind of stuff that she'll probably play, but that's down to the state of the genre, not her.

[Yoshimitsu]

Last time I heard Anne play, she played a huge range of styles from funky house through to hard trance, sort of like Judge Jules. I don't think she's really been a 100% hard house Dj for quite a while now. I think she's perfectly within her rights to change genres, the person she's billed with here, Lady Dana is a former hardcore DJ, how is that any different?

The fact is hardstyle was influenced by hard house, so it's really not surprising that former hard house DJ's have or will take a shine to it. The similarities in genres are growing by the day - it is too easy to produce, the market is flooded with extremely bad productions, and the quality standard is going dramatically downhill just as happened to hard house. The majority of hardstyle today IS very cheesy and not very good, so you're right that this is the kind of stuff that she'll probably play, but that's down to the state of the genre, not her.

Tis a good point but just coz the majority of hardstyle is cheesy doesnt mean she has 2 play it! Other hardstyle djs dont play cheese just coz its there. They sift through the shit & pick out the good stuff ;)

[Voorheez]

But obviously quite a few people like the cheesy stuff (probably the whole of Holland for starters). She probably does - just cause you or I don't like it does it mean nobody else can play it?

[Yoshimitsu]

But obviously quite a few people like the cheesy stuff (probably the whole of Holland for starters). She probably does - just cause you or I don't like it does it mean nobody else can play it?

Yeh but that goes back to the point that punters hearin her wont get an accurate picture of wot hardstyles about (originally)

[Voorheez]

But punters at Goodgreef will like that kind of stuff. Dana would probably play darker hardstyle at this night anyhow.

For me it all comes down to choice, and freedom of choice. You have the choice to listen to Anne Savage or not, nobody is forcing anyone. She has the choice to play it or not, and she also has the choice to play whatever style of it she likes. The way I see it, she's not trying to be an ambassador for the genre, or jumping on a bandwagon, she is simply playing music she likes to people who have a concious decision to listen to her play it or not.

[Yoshimitsu]

But punters at Goodgreef will like that kind of stuff. Dana would probably play darker hardstyle at this night anyhow.

For me it all comes down to choice, and freedom of choice. You have the choice to listen to Anne Savage or not, nobody is forcing anyone. She has the choice to play it or not, and she also has the choice to play whatever style of it she likes. The way I see it, she's not trying to be an ambassador for the genre, or jumping on a bandwagon, she is simply playing music she likes to people who have a concious decision to listen to her play it or not.

Yeh thats a good point m8. I'm just worried that she'll end up being an ambassador 4 the genre without meaning 2 be and expose new ppl to the worst of hardstyle

[Voorheez]

People will search it out for themselves if they're truly interested. Even in the worst hardstyle the basic elements are still there

[Yoshimitsu]

People will search it out for themselves if they're truly interested. Even in the worst hardstyle the basic elements are still there

Yeh thats true m8 ;)