warm up sets

**crime** · 15-04-2004, 01:42 AM

Why plan it?
Think on your feet...

**The Overfiend** · 15-04-2004, 01:42 AM

I think that set is very predictable some of those tracks are the same lineups you would find on a Trust the Dj compilation. I think there are better warm up tracks avail than what you have placed on this list. If you want to stand out bring the same energy forth but with a different approach but same vein. Look into some old eukatech or dobre and jamez stuff for the borederline tribal progressive stuff.

**Methodixxx** · 15-04-2004, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by crime

Why plan it?
Think on your feet...

Word Crime! A huge amount of energy is lacking when somebody plays a pre-planned set.... you want to be able to adapt to the crowd, go in a diff direction if needed, feel and feed off the energy, etc, etc... I know it's a lil' cliched but it really is damn important... don't pre-plan!

**tioneb** · 15-04-2004, 07:20 AM

1) a pre-done set is totally opposite of what a dj is imo... all your ideas about a warm up are good, but you destroy them doing this. Just becasue you have to consider tyhe crowd for doing you thing, if they cant get into your set, then you have to change what your playing, which is impossible if you have already planned what to play ... my two cents
2) yeah, miss suave is more a peaktime track rather than the first track i put in my sets, well if you go for a hard nite then spin this shite at the warm up

**Sunil** · 15-04-2004, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by tioneb

1) a pre-done set is totally opposite of what a dj is imo... all your ideas about a warm up are good, but you destroy them doing this. Just becasue you have to consider tyhe crowd for doing you thing, if they cant get into your set, then you have to change what your playing, which is impossible if you have already planned what to play ... my two cents
2) yeah, miss suave is more a peaktime track rather than the first track i put in my sets, well if you go for a hard nite then spin this shite at the warm up

Yes, but it is still good to have a vague idea what sections of records go well together or where it should all peak esp for a warm up set. It's very true though about the planning thing, it can never work that way as your preconception of how a night will never work to plan, as there's no accounting for how people react to certain stuff until you are actually playing it... being spontaneous is the whole buzz of it, however knowing what records are in your bag and *where* they are in your bag is important too ;)

**Tiptoe** · 15-04-2004, 11:41 AM

well the reason i have planned my set is cos its the 1st time i have played in a club and so i want to be able to practice the set a bit before i play. I no this might make me look shit having to practice my set but i don't want to let anyone down. And the reason for a few obvious tunes is that i was talking to people at the night last time i was there and a lot of them like these kind of tunes. I was going to play a set full of reeko suregeon mullero stuff but with it been the 1st set of the night i thought a full set of this would be too hard and after talking it through with people who's opinion i respect. If i was playing a different time my set would look completely different, but you have to pay your dues so its stayin as it is. I do know where you are coming from though with track selection but thats lack of confidence on my part. Again might make me look a muppet but am playing my 1st set safe. :lol:

**Buttman** · 15-04-2004, 01:11 PM

What the **** is this?
Make no compromises!!! Play your thing whenever you play and whoever is playing after/before you.
If it does not fit into the context it is promoter's fault and not yours!

**daviec** · 15-04-2004, 01:59 PM

Haha. I agreed with this whole thread right up until Buttman said that :lol:

Good point mate. But I always tend to vary my set depending on where and when I play.

Last month I was playing the warm-up slot for Ade Fenton, and I chose Wunsch, Surgeon, Exium and the likes to build the floor up. A week later I had an earlier set at a club called Twisted which is hardcore techno and gabba. I had an early set in the techno room, but went ballistic from the off. Wittekind, Amok, Natus, etc.

It's all in the context. I like quite a range of techno, and wouldn't like to be labelled as some sort of "sub-genre of techno" dj. Rather just a techno dj.

**Numeric** · 15-04-2004, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by daviec

A week later I had an earlier set at a club called Twisted which is hardcore techno and gabba. I had an early set in the techno room, but went ballistic from the off. Wittekind, Amok, Natus, etc.

Twisted still going is it, big up Al and the boyz...

:clap:

**scienceofuse** · 15-04-2004, 02:17 PM

Playing warm-up sets can be as much fun as playing peak-time... Actually, most of the techno I like listening to is funky melodic warm-up material. Labels like Bio, SuperBra or Kanzleramt have many releases that fit this description and there are a few great teasers among tracks by producers such as Vince Watson, Funk D'Void, The Youngsters, John Tejada, John Thomas, Fabrice Lig (aka Soul Designer), Pascal FEOS (his "Self reflexion" album 4 example), Alexander Kowalski ("Belo Horizonte" or "Scarpia", also some of his Double X collabs), Steve Rachmad, Dave Ellesmere, Dennis DeSantis and the like... Electro can be good for warm-up sets too, you can play with those broken beats before you introduce that almighty 4/4 kick drum :)

**death on a stick** · 15-04-2004, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Buttman

What the **** is this?
Make no compromises!!! Play your thing whenever you play and whoever is playing after/before you.
If it does not fit into the context it is promoter's fault and not yours

So if you were booked to play a warm up set you'd turn up and play a set of hard banging techno the same as if you were playing at 3am? That's not a lack of compromise, that's a lack of sense.

**dtl** · 15-04-2004, 03:24 PM

As a dj it's all about depth with your record collection... Sets at different time and place show what you are really made of.

Eric.

**scienceofuse** · 15-04-2004, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by dtl

As a dj it's all about depth with your record collection... Sets at different time and place show what you are really made of.

Eric.

I very much agree.

**Bughead** · 16-04-2004, 02:15 AM

sometimes the promoter can get it wrong and sometimes the dj can get it wrong. My style is very much banging with some wonky as well and this can throw the promoter off sometimes if you play a particular way.
I got it wrong once playing with a well respected wonky artist but it sort of worked. The main thing is the audience enjoyed it very much.

**tioneb** · 16-04-2004, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by death on a stick

Originally Posted by Buttman

What the **** is this?
Make no compromises!!! Play your thing whenever you play and whoever is playing after/before you.
If it does not fit into the context it is promoter's fault and not yours

So if you were booked to play a warm up set you'd turn up and play a set of hard banging techno the same as if you were playing at 3am? That's not a lack of compromise, that's a lack of sense.

oh what a sad thing you say mika ... making no compromise is one thing and i agree with you on this...

but that doesnt mean you have to play whatever you want not caring about the crowd , that would mean your musical tastes (ie. what you play, which is not necessary what you listen to) are strictly limited to one kind of techno. And THAT is totally disappointing.

**Dustin Zahn** · 16-04-2004, 08:24 AM

I think if you want to consider yourself a well-rounded DJ, you have to be able to adapt your style to anytime of night. You should spend the time to find records that work great at peak time, as well as records that work great in the early hours of the night and morning as well. If you can bring the same feel/style of a peak-time darker techno set into the beginning of your set I think it will make a great difference.

If you're simply just someone who does nothing but bang it and that's your style (i.e. Glenn Wilson)...then yes, it should be the promoter for putting you on early.

A good example is Hawtin. I'm not hear to say his music is good or bad, but his sets can go from minimal to very heavy in a few hours and still keep the same feel or similar sound.

You'll have to excuse me if I don't make sense. I went out for a bit tonight.

**ncw** · 16-04-2004, 09:07 AM

Interesting... I've always found Hawtin's DJing to be totally linear and dull, not really shifting intensity or dynamic at all over several hours. I like his records, but I reckon he is a deathly boring DJ.

**Tiptoe** · 16-04-2004, 10:48 AM

no way. hawtin is class. Had one of my best orbits to him on that tour he did. Genious at work if you ask me.

**el_satan666** · 16-04-2004, 11:02 AM

I'd agree on the "slightly boring dj" comment. But Hawtin is EXTREMELY subjective, never a more love-him-or-hate-him man in techno. Great producer though.

tchik....tchik-tchikaaaahh.....baum....baum......baum..........oo ooooh yeah

("minus orange" - "duff-man says a lot of things")

**el_satan666** · 16-04-2004, 11:04 AM

I'd be in the same boat as loving hard techno, but compromise is necessary. I'd had too many warm up dj's "do their own thing" and wreck a night by not upstaging the main act, but just being LOUDER than them.

Warm up dj's should know their place, and like "death on a stick" said, an integral one.

(imo, just in case we going to win the argument by votes or something)

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