I've been trying to make this point for quite a while now (no biggin' up here :lol: )... In Sydney there was sort of an ethos of hard for the sake of being hard within certain crews over the last few years and nobody got what I meant when I was crapping on about it (Dirty Bass - spot on analogy man, exactly my point)... And yeah, the tracks from certain camps are just so predictably boring and flat that I can't see how anyone even considers it hard... And again, Adverse, spot on, Natus can do it when he likes cause he produces it so well that it does have depth and substance, and it does make it impact more...
But.... each to their own and all that...
Heehee DTL - I bet you see what I was saying back then about OBI now ;)