Hardstyle and the screechy noises...

[Hakka]

Surely we have come to the end of productions that involve hard & over compressed kick drums, hennes & cold bass lines with screechy noises over the top?

Enough is enough?

Hard Style needs to evolve before it becomes far to stale. I'm struggling to buy stuff at the moment... I'm more concerned with getting older hardstyle that I didn't buy because at the time I didn't have the funds.

Please can you all name 5 tracks that have pioneered hard style? Not just from the begining, but ones from past & present where possible.

Very curious to see what people think, not because I think they may be wrong or right, but because I'm very curious to what personal reactions are.

Hope you all obliege.

[MangaFish]

totally agree with you mate. variation is the key to success.

i personally couldnt go to a hardstyle night as to me it all sounds the same. which is a shame as there is a hell of a lot of good stuff out there and i do like what i've heard.

when i mix hardstyle, i find i have to water it down with techno and hardhouse to give it the variation i desire

[TechnoRaver]

um....
early uberdrucks 1 & 2 i think, early tracids acid headcracker, 10 kleine bassdrums etc, one of my fav dance pollutions Tuneboy - "demolition"

thats all i cant think off the top of me head.

[djstride]

ive said this for a loooong time - the hennes and cold kick thats been used ever since second trip is annoying as hell.

not played a record that sounded like that in almost 2 years now.

[Yoshimitsu]

Analogic Disturbance - Dusky noises & the second chase ep

Some blutonium's eg. make it loud

Not too familiar with the very early stuff coz I only got into the scene about 18 months- 2 years ago.

I do agree though that so many tunes use the same old sounds etc. Cant think wot they can do to progress though

Oh, and brain ovulation's stuff was pioneering imo

[DJ Corbzy]

There's a very small percentage of hardstyle out there that's good IMO, right from the start it was way too formulaic.

Tunes that did it for me were ones like Atlantic Wave - The Creation, Psycho Hardstylers - The Game, Analogic Disturbance - Second Chase EP...

Nowadays Hardstyle is just about sounding the same as what's already out rather than doing something new.

Hardstyle = Hennes & Cold Bassline, Fat Kick, Screechy Synth and Annoying or Slanderous Vocal.

[Yoshimitsu]

The game was a class tune :clap:

[DJ Corbzy]

The game was a class tune :clap:

Defo man, the production was awesome, shame about the bad pressing and the fact it skipped on the slow down bit....

Used to sketch people right out in clubs, people used to think the deck had been knocked off! :lol:

[Yoshimitsu]

The game was a class tune :clap:

Defo man, the production was awesome, shame about the bad pressing and the fact it skipped on the slow down bit....

Used to sketch people right out in clubs, people used to think the deck had been knocked off! :lol:

Didnt know the skipping was a press error I thought it was just mine :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

The game was a class tune :clap:

Defo man, the production was awesome, shame about the bad pressing and the fact it skipped on the slow down bit....

Used to sketch people right out in clubs, people used to think the deck had been knocked off! :lol:

Didnt know the skipping was a press error I thought it was just mine :lol:

Nah it was on every copy and then I think it may have got re-released with a better press.

[Yoshimitsu]

The game was a class tune :clap:

Defo man, the production was awesome, shame about the bad pressing and the fact it skipped on the slow down bit....

Used to sketch people right out in clubs, people used to think the deck had been knocked off! :lol:

Didnt know the skipping was a press error I thought it was just mine :lol:

Nah it was on every copy and then I think it may have got re-released with a better press.

I used to get well pissed off with it

[edk]

tales of a 12 inch, the game, speed, the second trip, edge of sanity. would have to be the five that have really struck me the most.
hardstyle is becoming more a thing of the past to me, it just reminds me of hard house these days.......

[Voorheez]

Please can you all name 5 tracks that have pioneered hard style? Not just from the begining, but ones from past & present where possible.

I think personally things are starting to look up again. I felt the same way you do now Mark for the past couple of months, but recently i've been picking up quite a few bits. In answer to your question, here's where I think the future lies - my 5 recent pioneering tracks:

1) Dana - Undenlichkiet
2) DJ Zany - Sky High
3) Southstylers - Pwoap
4) ASYS - Storm & Thunder
5) Fliegenpilz - Unmoglich

[Andy__C]

Some awesome tune's there Vorheez.......



I wouldn't become too overobsessed with being groundbreaking, the first, something new n'all that with my tunes........

some of you sound like your faaaaar to obsessed with whats in the future that your totally ignoring wicked tunes that are around now...... every single tune hasn't gotta be groundbreaking, a new sound, fresh, never done before, a new concept etc.....


maybe it's just there are diff taste's to my own....I defo ain't bored with hardstyle, there's more tune's to buy than I have the money for......true, there hasn't been a lotta new sounding stuff, but just cos it ain't summerfruits fresh doesn't mean it ain't good! ;)

This ain't a rant btw........ just an observation....... seems to be a lot of unsatisfaction on here that hardstyle ain't progressing at a million mile's an hour when no-one seems to be stopping and looking at whats now.....


no biggies though..... ;)

[Yoshimitsu]

tales of a 12 inch, the game, speed, the second trip, edge of sanity. would have to be the five that have really struck me the most.
hardstyle is becoming more a thing of the past to me, it just reminds me of hard house these days.......

Im gonna take you on a tour, of a twelve inch :clap: class tune



Andy_C you make a good point ;)

[DJCraig Ryan]

Please can you all name 5 tracks that have pioneered hard style? Not just from the begining, but ones from past & present where possible.

I think personally things are starting to look up again. I felt the same way you do now Mark for the past couple of months, but recently i've been picking up quite a few bits. In answer to your question, here's where I think the future lies - my 5 recent pioneering tracks:

1) Dana - Undenlichkiet
2) DJ Zany - Sky High
3) Southstylers - Pwoap
4) ASYS - Storm & Thunder
5) Fliegenpilz - Unmoglich

I wouldn't class A.S.Y.S "Storm & Thunder" as Hardstyle.
Totally agree with Hakka, i've been struggling to enjoy/buy Hardstyle for over 6 months.
The direction it needs to go is in the form of Dark and Industrial and not Harder Hard House.

[Voorheez]

Please can you all name 5 tracks that have pioneered hard style? Not just from the begining, but ones from past & present where possible.

I think personally things are starting to look up again. I felt the same way you do now Mark for the past couple of months, but recently i've been picking up quite a few bits. In answer to your question, here's where I think the future lies - my 5 recent pioneering tracks:

1) Dana - Undenlichkiet
2) DJ Zany - Sky High
3) Southstylers - Pwoap
4) ASYS - Storm & Thunder
5) Fliegenpilz - Unmoglich

I wouldn't class A.S.Y.S "Storm & Thunder" as Hardstyle.

None of those above are really typical hardstyle. A lot of them bend genres which is in my eyes the way forward, or pioneering a new direction instead of just recyclying the same tired samples. The Dana track is techno infuenced, Zany is very trancy, Pwoap is very much like a jumpstyle track. Fliegenpilz is gabber like and ASYS is (obviously) acidy, but the beat is enough to make it hardstyle to me.

[DJ SPUDIE]

Hardstyle is almost boring me a little at the moment. Im tending to buy more hard trance than style

[Ben C]

The game was a class tune :clap:

Defo man, the production was awesome, shame about the bad pressing and the fact it skipped on the slow down bit....

Used to sketch people right out in clubs, people used to think the deck had been knocked off! :lol:

i got this tune when it 1st came out and mine is fine, although my mate had the same problem.

calm down peeps, theres still loadsa good stuff coming out.
i think hardstyle has just hit a wee bit of a stale patch.
all it takes is one producer to twiddle a nob a certain way and create a whole new sound, and you's will all be smiling again. ;)

[DJCraig Ryan]

Please can you all name 5 tracks that have pioneered hard style? Not just from the begining, but ones from past & present where possible.

I think personally things are starting to look up again. I felt the same way you do now Mark for the past couple of months, but recently i've been picking up quite a few bits. In answer to your question, here's where I think the future lies - my 5 recent pioneering tracks:

1) Dana - Undenlichkiet
2) DJ Zany - Sky High
3) Southstylers - Pwoap
4) ASYS - Storm & Thunder
5) Fliegenpilz - Unmoglich

I wouldn't class A.S.Y.S "Storm & Thunder" as Hardstyle.

None of those above are really typical hardstyle. A lot of them bend genres which is in my eyes the way forward, or pioneering a new direction instead of just recyclying the same tired samples. The Dana track is techno infuenced, Zany is very trancy, Pwoap is very much like a jumpstyle track. Fliegenpilz is gabber like and ASYS is (obviously) acidy, but the beat is enough to make it hardstyle to me.

True mate, i see what you mean. And to be honest the Hardstyle i like is the style which does bend the Genre and not your typical "sounding" Hardstyle. There is defintley not enough of this, with too many artists producing the same sound. Ive not bought alot of Hardstyle for a long time because of the same old sound and same formula. In Hardstyle i like it to be Dark, with a solid Bassline but not Bouncy! I like the crossover of Gabba and i like it to be 'Tech' and 'Industrial' Influenced.
But as Hakka mentioned, alot of it is way too cheesy, too bouncy and too much Hard House influenced.
Hardstyle should be related to as a Dark crossover Genre, but Vorheez, a few tracks of late, as you mentioned are maybe a sign of more of this sort of material being released.
Hardstyle tunes such as "Dana - Undenlichkiet, Fliegenpilz - Unmoglich & Teknoid "Edge of Darkness," really impressed me and this should be the way forward!