A lot healthier...

[DJ Corbzy]

Sorry I was starting a bit harsh there Corbz, I was just a bit quick to snap as I have thought a lot about hard trance over the last year and I've been very frustrated that I'm not hearing stuff that has been winning me over. There are tunes out there which deserve credit, i.e Surrender - Control Me - Totally class piece of hard trance! - Fast Floor mix of DJ Cygas - Sweet Lies... class! - The Elite - Club Experience... damn well wicked.

Yeah, I'll agree with you on Surrounder - Control Me and Club Experience.

[Hakka]

Tough call Mark...I respect your views and you know that man, At no point I was saying that your opinion wasn't valid and you had to settle for mine, I was clearly stating that I was annoyed with the slating of new hard trance tunes because they don't live up to the expectations of many people, at the end of the day, you like what you like, and you don't what you don't, but I backed up my opinions with what I beleive.

Forums are for stating how you feel and expressing your feelings, I admit I slate a lot of people for not agreeing with me but that's just me.

At the end of the day, we are the ones who can go out there and make the future music and mix the future tunes, so if you truly feel the way you do, go out and do something about it.

Fair play Corbz... I like the reply, respect man.

Its not that hard trance isn't good... cause its great... its the TYPE of hard trance. I'm so very old german style sound sort of person, and other forms of trance I love, but not as much as that sound. I can't let go that german sound cause to me, its too important and too good. It's opened up my mind to so many posibilites of sound and melody that I always want to hear more. When I hear different sort of trance I love it, but not as much as liked the other.

Crazy I am...

[Si the Sigh]

Not really, I gag for the old style of darkness & light. The evil, twisted, fu*ked up sounds of a track before breaking into the most awesome trance. You ain't crazy Hakka...Your like me, nostalgic! ;)

[Chris Hare]

this is my biggest hurdel as a producer... when i write trance/hard trance i feel caged... by the boundaries that have been set before i`ve even started... hence i havent release anything for a long time... anyone who has heard any of my experiments off cd would know that there alwyas "weird"...cuz i dont wanna make the same old shit that everyones churning out- im not saying that its shit, im saying that is the same old..fair enough riffs are different ,basslines change,and arrangements differ but at the core its nothing new... i think yeah thats a fat tune but it sounds like everything else...

its not as bleak as this really because as i said in that other thread its natural... someone comes along and changes perceptions about a scene... then that revalation ventually becomes the norm because people use it as a new hall mark for there own stuff then something comes along and does it again its a cycle and were at a bit before a burst... i hope... anyway as corbz said lets MAKE things happen for a scene and the music welove!! Peace ;)

[Si the Sigh]

Word to ya gran Chris mate! :clap:

[Chris Hare]

im still in love with your gran Chris mate! :clap:when she used to take out her teeth i knew i was in for a good night...

[Chris Hare]

:lol: sorry si you`ve been the victim of a few of my unruley quote changing antics today... i just cant help myself :lol:

[Si the Sigh]

:lol: sorry si you can be the master & i'll be the slave today. i just cant help myself :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

Chris could I get a CD of you latest stuff mate?

[Chris Hare]

corbz.... bring out the gimp... but the gimps sleeping... well you better go wake him up now hadnt you bwoy

[Chris Hare]

dude when i do one that i want to give to people ill sort u out... but it wont be for a while yet... this years definately gonna be the year where i start pushing things though.. ;)

[Yoshimitsu]

Interesting to read all your points coz they're all very valid opinions. Imo it is true that hard trance is in need of something new but I still like some of the current stuff coz it doesnt necessarily have to be ground breaking to be class

[Chris Hare]

this is true yoshi... we all love trance just as much as the next man i reckon ... were just passionate about things flowing to greater dimensions...

[Yoshimitsu]

this is true yoshi... we all love trance just as much as the next man i reckon ... were just passionate about things flowing to greater dimensions...

Also I dont think that progression in a genre is something that can be forced. I think wen the time is right it'll evolve naturally as it always does. For now though I cant complain as theres loads of tunes comin out that i like especially from the likes of FSC & Gas. Although gas has been a bit thin in the last month or 2

[EmotionComplex]

this is true yoshi... we all love trance just as much as the next man i reckon ... were just passionate about things flowing to greater dimensions...

Also I dont think that progression in a genre is something that can be forced. I think wen the time is right it'll evolve naturally as it always does. For now though I cant complain as theres loads of tunes comin out that i like especially from the likes of FSC & Gas. Although gas has been a bit thin in the last month or 2

im well looking forward to gas's electro trance slant on things later this year

[Yoshimitsu]

this is true yoshi... we all love trance just as much as the next man i reckon ... were just passionate about things flowing to greater dimensions...

Also I dont think that progression in a genre is something that can be forced. I think wen the time is right it'll evolve naturally as it always does. For now though I cant complain as theres loads of tunes comin out that i like especially from the likes of FSC & Gas. Although gas has been a bit thin in the last month or 2

im well looking forward to gas's electro trance slant on things later this year

Dunno if i'll get into that but one of the sub-labels is continuing to make the stompin hard trance innit? I hope so

[Chris Hare]

gas are very wicked mate... i think we can expect big things from them this year... although i heard there pushing an electro sound to so many thats why there hasnt been such a rush of releases like last year... i just hope there trance doesnt suffer becuase of a shift in weight to electro... gas uk should be nice!!

[EmotionComplex]

this is true yoshi... we all love trance just as much as the next man i reckon ... were just passionate about things flowing to greater dimensions...

Also I dont think that progression in a genre is something that can be forced. I think wen the time is right it'll evolve naturally as it always does. For now though I cant complain as theres loads of tunes comin out that i like especially from the likes of FSC & Gas. Although gas has been a bit thin in the last month or 2

im well looking forward to gas's electro trance slant on things later this year

Dunno if i'll get into that but one of the sub-labels is continuing to make the stompin hard trance innit? I hope so

yeah there still releasing the hard stuff on gas uk i think

[Yoshimitsu]

Hopefully they start bringin em out again soon :cry: :lol:

[Chris Hare]

that came out a bit jumbled... meant to say "i think there pushing an electro sound too, so maybe thats why...bla bla"

sorry