Mixing Hardstyle

[DJTrubass]

Yeah all is true, but its what akes hardstyle unique init, being harder to mix isnt a bad thing it just means u got more talent, and if u get to know ur tunes inside out, the random kicks etc wont bother you

[Busho]

innit
i pretty much know my vinyls inside out! thats why i wanna get some new stuff
i started mixin techno into my sets now


wheres the best place to donload hardstyle/techno tracks (complete tracks) from???

[Voorheez]

and if u get to know ur tunes inside out, the random kicks etc wont bother you

I know my tunes inside out and they still wind me up :cry:

[DJ SPUDIE]

Yeah all is true, but its what akes hardstyle unique init, being harder to mix isnt a bad thing it just means u got more talent, and if u get to know ur tunes inside out, the random kicks etc wont bother you

Yeah m8, you can plan a set right out so that its 1 bassline after another.
Im still in the prosess of learning all my tunes inside and out ;)

[K Front]

Dont you get bored of a track if you learn it inside out?

[Andy__C]

it depends - some I do for defo.......



I really need to play a lot more of my tunes or get recording and listening in the car - I'm still buying loadsa tunes but really busy at the mo so not gettin much time with the twins ........ knowledge of the last 3 months tunes is at an all time low - some I've prop only played 3 times max

[MCVIPER]

THERE MAKING TUNES NOW TO CUT THE TIME OF MIXING DOWN SO YOU HEAR 90% OF THERE TUNE WHICH I THINK IS BOLLOCKS. WHEN I`M MIXING I WANNA MIX AS LONG AS POSS TO GET BASE LINE RIPPIN SO IT SOUNDS HARDER. EVERYONE WANTS TO DO BANGIN MIXING SO THE PRODUCERS SHOULD SORT EM SELVES OUT!

[Yoshimitsu]

Yeah all is true, but its what akes hardstyle unique init, being harder to mix isnt a bad thing it just means u got more talent, and if u get to know ur tunes inside out, the random kicks etc wont bother you

Yeah m8, you can plan a set right out so that its 1 bassline after another.
Im still in the prosess of learning all my tunes inside and out ;)

Depends if thats your style r not though innit? i know a lot of my tunes very well but theres too many to know every detail of all of em

[K Front]

THERE MAKING TUNES NOW TO CUT THE TIME OF MIXING DOWN SO YOU HEAR 90% OF THERE TUNE WHICH I THINK IS BOLLOCKS. WHEN I`M MIXING I WANNA MIX AS LONG AS POSS TO GET BASE LINE RIPPIN SO IT SOUNDS HARDER. EVERYONE WANTS TO DO BANGIN MIXING SO THE PRODUCERS SHOULD SORT EM SELVES OUT!

I disagree. I think its a good thing, the producers should make what they want an do it as unique as possibly. Its up to the dj to get around this.

[K Front]

Break the rules!

[Yoshimitsu]

THERE MAKING TUNES NOW TO CUT THE TIME OF MIXING DOWN SO YOU HEAR 90% OF THERE TUNE WHICH I THINK IS BOLLOCKS. WHEN I`M MIXING I WANNA MIX AS LONG AS POSS TO GET BASE LINE RIPPIN SO IT SOUNDS HARDER. EVERYONE WANTS TO DO BANGIN MIXING SO THE PRODUCERS SHOULD SORT EM SELVES OUT!

I disagree. I think its a good thing, the producers should make what they want an do it as unique as possibly. Its up to the dj to get around this.

its good for mixes to be challenging

[Voorheez]

THERE MAKING TUNES NOW TO CUT THE TIME OF MIXING DOWN SO YOU HEAR 90% OF THERE TUNE WHICH I THINK IS BOLLOCKS. WHEN I`M MIXING I WANNA MIX AS LONG AS POSS TO GET BASE LINE RIPPIN SO IT SOUNDS HARDER. EVERYONE WANTS TO DO BANGIN MIXING SO THE PRODUCERS SHOULD SORT EM SELVES OUT!

I disagree. I think its a good thing, the producers should make what they want an do it as unique as possibly. Its up to the dj to get around this.

its good for mixes to be challenging

I disagree personally. An artist works with a blank canvas and creates art from it much like a good DJ creates great sounding mixes from tunes that have a sequence that will fit on others of it's type. It's a basic rule of production, because these tunes are, after all designed to be mixed together. If all you can come up with is intro to outro mixes with well sequenced tunes, then thats only your skill level.

Tunes that are not in any kind of sequence are not challenging and unique to me, they're frustratingly amatuer, and nigh on impossible to make them sound good whilst mixing.

[K Front]

Do you want to take this outside?


:lol:

[TechnoRaver]

THERE MAKING TUNES NOW TO CUT THE TIME OF MIXING DOWN SO YOU HEAR 90% OF THERE TUNE WHICH I THINK IS BOLLOCKS. WHEN I`M MIXING I WANNA MIX AS LONG AS POSS TO GET BASE LINE RIPPIN SO IT SOUNDS HARDER. EVERYONE WANTS TO DO BANGIN MIXING SO THE PRODUCERS SHOULD SORT EM SELVES OUT!

I disagree. I think its a good thing, the producers should make what they want an do it as unique as possibly. Its up to the dj to get around this.

its good for mixes to be challenging

I disagree personally. An artist works with a blank canvas and creates art from it much like a good DJ creates great sounding mixes from tunes that have a sequence that will fit on others of it's type. It's a basic rule of production, because these tunes are, after all designed to be mixed together. If all you can come up with is intro to outro mixes with well sequenced tunes, then thats only your skill level.

Tunes that are not in any kind of sequence are not challenging and unique to me, they're frustratingly amatuer, and nigh on impossible to make them sound good whilst mixing.

so what you want every tune to be made straight through with no stitches??
how boring would that be :roll:
all the mixes would be the same
you cant call tunes amatuer just cause they dont stick to "the basic rules", if you cant mix them together to get em to sound nice then maybe u shouldnt be mixin it?
the whole fun of mixing hardstyle is the amount of different ways the tunes go together.

[Busho]

yeah mate
i tend to find myself mixing the same set of tunes every time i mix
n it was gettin easy so 2nite i changed the order in which i played them n i was ****in lovin it coz it was quite a challenge :clap:

[Andy__C]

I disagree personally. An artist works with a blank canvas and creates art from it much like a good DJ creates great sounding mixes from tunes that have a sequence that will fit on others of it's type.

I think that from my point of view you are waaaay overcomplicating and reading too much into it…..
Not a dig at u personally or anyting bu!… but this is hardstyle….not some super intellignet 6hr prog set where bringing in the wrong hi-hat as the critical high point in the entire set can spoil the entire performance!! and you've got to rely on the producers for knowing where everthing's gonna come in lol!!

U can't critisize hardstyle for not being like other genre's - its the way it is...... thats why its a different genre!!


As said earlier...I like the little breaks and the bass slammin back in...... always gets a grin on the chops...... sometimes it's a pain in the ass if your mixing with tunes you don't know..... but thats hardstyle innit

[Yoshimitsu]

THERE MAKING TUNES NOW TO CUT THE TIME OF MIXING DOWN SO YOU HEAR 90% OF THERE TUNE WHICH I THINK IS BOLLOCKS. WHEN I`M MIXING I WANNA MIX AS LONG AS POSS TO GET BASE LINE RIPPIN SO IT SOUNDS HARDER. EVERYONE WANTS TO DO BANGIN MIXING SO THE PRODUCERS SHOULD SORT EM SELVES OUT!

I disagree. I think its a good thing, the producers should make what they want an do it as unique as possibly. Its up to the dj to get around this.

its good for mixes to be challenging

I disagree personally. An artist works with a blank canvas and creates art from it much like a good DJ creates great sounding mixes from tunes that have a sequence that will fit on others of it's type. It's a basic rule of production, because these tunes are, after all designed to be mixed together. If all you can come up with is intro to outro mixes with well sequenced tunes, then thats only your skill level.

Tunes that are not in any kind of sequence are not challenging and unique to me, they're frustratingly amatuer, and nigh on impossible to make them sound good whilst mixing.

U cant say theres no sequence to hardstyle coz there is, its just moe varied then other styles. Also, why would you want every tune to follow the exact same structure? If that was the case then wheres the skill in mixig em?

[Voorheez]

You guys are missing the whole point of my post and this topic in particular.

I'm not referring to hardstyle as a whole, rather certain tracks which are gradually increasing in numbers, that are hard or near impossible to mix.

so what you want every tune to be made straight through with no stitches??
how boring would that be

No. Read again.

you cant call tunes amatuer just cause they dont stick to "the basic rules", if you cant mix them together to get em to sound nice then maybe u shouldnt be mixin it?

Basic rules of production. i.e music has to be in time. And I can mix them together real nice thanks, come see me DJ sometime or listen to a CD and be prepared to eat humble pie.

U can't critisize hardstyle for not being like other genre's - its the way it is...... thats why its a different genre!!

Again, i'm not talking about hardstyle, and I never criticised it for not being like other genres. I'm talking about some badly produced hardstyle tracks.

U cant say theres no sequence to hardstyle coz there is, its just moe varied then other styles. Also, why would you want every tune to follow the exact same structure? If that was the case then wheres the skill in mixig em?

I'm talking about sequences in the tune. Like keeping to a 32/16 beat rythym instead of missing 4 beats somewhere then finshing 16 early here and there.

[Andy__C]

I'm talking about sequences in the tune. Like keeping to a 32/16 beat rythym instead of missing 4 beats somewhere then finshing 16 early here and there.

Don't you love it when your in a club though and it cut's out when u don't expect it....and slams back in when u even less expect it??


Maybe some people on here ain't feelin hardstyle like me.... but I'm well enthusiastic about it at the moment.......


more people are playing it.........gettin played out in clubs more...... - alright granted, there;s a lot of feckin bollocks being made.... but unlike the really cheesy one's (tetris...*snigger*) which can be made fun of.... why don't u just ignore the shiit ones...... :?:

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[TechnoRaver]

you cant call tunes amatuer just cause they dont stick to "the basic rules", if you cant mix them together to get em to sound nice then maybe u shouldnt be mixin it?

Basic rules of production. i.e music has to be in time. And I can mix them together real nice thanks, come see me DJ sometime or listen to a CD and be prepared to eat humble pie.


I'm talking about sequences in the tune. Like keeping to a 32/16 beat rythym instead of missing 4 beats somewhere then finshing 16 early here and there.

I never said you couldnt mix, you were the one who admitted they couldnt mix hardstyle very well.

and if a tune misses four beats it doesnt mean its gone out of time, if it stays 4/4 youve got nothing to complain about.