no i'm sure it's all about producers who 'think' they are producers because they've got a cracked copy of fruity loops/reason. it really is. this is the problem and this is where crap hardstyle and most of the crap electronic music these days has sprung from.... we need a qulaity control and we're not going to get this from label owners so surely the responsibility lies with the producers?

intersted to hear everyone's thoughts...