umm, i think its probably time to give up this discussion cos its going on and on...

however, i reckon i'll just ease my two cents in:

there is no real possibility for MELODY in techno. that is the whole point. it is based on grooves, noises, and sound in its pure form. every other genre is based on having a HOOK, something melodic that grabs the lstener's ear and whispers "here you go, hum this all day til it does everyones head in"

if something is melodic, then it can be sung. if it can be sung, then you can put words to it (see where i'm going?). if you can put words to it then you can rinse the hell out of a genre thats hot by sticking a pop vocal over the top and selling it to pre-pubescent girls and post-menopausal women (and a lot of beer drinkers). that, for me, is why techno is still so underground. until you hear S-Club junior ravers featuring will+gareth with "I'm totally addicted to acid" (rik waller's hardstep 303 fatman mix)... i got it on white, its massive, terry wogan's been caning it to death. watch out.