Dub step.

[Numeric]

used to listen to it years ago, agree that most of it sounds way too formuleric these days, still some sick tracks about though

that Night track from Benga is a beast despite it getting rinsed everywhere

[judas_beast]

Skream is alright. All about MC Buffalo at the Dub Step awards though.

too much of it now is standard heavy bass wobble blah blah, imo of course!

[DannyBlack]

Thanks lads! it would appear that I have come to the right place!! This is all new to me. My mate Muc plays a lot of dubstep,i remember the first set I saw him play, the bass made me all silly. Thanks again!!

[messyfuture]

http://www.gotdarker.com/?fileref=ea...bc3e62f1d04dd7

thats my most recent one, got another one sitting on my hard drive you on msn i'll send it that way or i can re up it tonight

[DannyBlack]

I wont be on MSN for another couple of days till i get the laptop up and running again. My addy is sidviscus@hotmail.com

[DannyBlack]

Anyone know where I can get 16. Come to Life - Drop the lime (dub) on vinyl from????? I must have it!

[djshiva]

it's funny, because as with all genres, the djs can shape the image of what people think of the genre as a whole.

for me, the width and breadth of dubstep right now is far-reaching, and not at all limited to the party-tune, dancefloor-smashing wobble business that people are seeing as representative of all dubstep.

some artists who are crossing techno/dubstep boundaries (or are just immensely good):

2562
pinch
appleblim
gatekeeper
kode 9
geiom
pangea
untold
shackleton
peverelist
overcast radio
mala (digital mystikz)
benga
likhan
TRG
bombaman
reso
skream
elemental

i could go on for days, as there are bigger names and also lesser known talent that are really pushing new sounds every day, it's just that those aren't necessarily what gets caned on the dancefloor.

evidently the last DMZ was pretty techno-influence heavy tho, by all accounts, so trust me when i say that dubstep may have some formulaic things happening within it, but those formulas DEFINITELY do not define the sound at all.

good places to find mixes:
www.dubstepforum.com
www.barefiles.com

i also gotta do some blatant self promotion and point to my last studio mix, Retrospection, as an example of what happens when techno and dubstep meet and have a smoke.

also peep my archives for my dubstep.fm radio show: http://www.dubstep.fm/djshiva

i tend to play all over the place with the radio show, so you never really know what's gonna happen, but i have been a techno girl for years, so expect that influence in a big way.

anyway, i just wanted to pop on here and let people know that there is pure gold in the dubstep scene, but it takes paying attention, as with any genre. every genre has its formulas, but no genre should ever truly be defined by them.

[C.O.Prodigy]

@djshiva
thanks for the post
and for the namedrops

have somestuff from some of them like - kode 9, benga, skream. I'll check out what I can find..

cheers

[djshiva]

oh how could i forget scuba? keep an eye out for the new album "a mutual antipathy". have only heard a few tracks off it, both exceptional, and by all accounts from those who have heard it...it's the bees knees.

[jesus]

check out me niga screenager , best music ive heard for a while.

http://www.myspace.com/dascreen

[massplanck]

Loefah - Goat Stare/Root has to be the heaviest tune of all time.
I havent listened to dubstep in about 18 months but getting back into it now. Like shiva said there is plenty of room for crossing over between techno & dubstep.
Check out her Retrospection mix.

[Aratron]

cmplete pretentious drivel.

boring garbage which has no place being linked to techno.

[massplanck]

cmplete pretentious drivel.

boring garbage which has no place being linked to techno.

Dude you didnt even know who speedy j was up untill 3 months ago.

[Aratron]

Dude you didnt even know who speedy j was up untill 3 months ago.

fair play mate. just what i have heard of dubstep its not really my bag. although im hardly a barometer of what represents the next phase.

[RDR]

cmplete pretentious drivel.

boring garbage which has no place being linked to techno.

Some of it i like, some i dont.

[djshiva]

cmplete pretentious drivel.

boring garbage which has no place being linked to techno.

if you are kidding, your sense of humour is shit.

if you are not, then you are an utter wasteman.

[Aratron]

if you are kidding, your sense of humour is shit.

if you are not, then you are an utter wasteman.

im not kidding, trolling, baiting or anything. just my opinion. shit if its so wonderful, why get so defensive about it?

[djshiva]

im not kidding, trolling, baiting or anything. just my opinion. shit if its so wonderful, why get so defensive about it?

if you don't like it, that's cool. i could care less.

but when you make blanket declarations about the value of the music as a whole, or act like you are the supreme dictator of all that is techno, declaring how dubstep has no place anywhere near techno...

...well...you sound like an asshole.

i am not getting defensive. i am calling you out for being a pompous dick. there's a difference.

[wrong]

thats pretty much just summed up whats wrong with techno today.. tunnel vision .. what is techno anyway? and who's to say what can and can't be linked to it? Isn't that the whole point of it? alien sounds and styles..embracing new ideas and creating new angles.. Buddy Holly only knew 3 chords.. A,D and E.. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who's only into buddy holly whereas the music of buddy holly and the crickets make up a small yet important blip on the tapestry that is rock n roll..
(excuse my cheese) ;)

[RDR]

thats pretty much just summed up whats wrong with techno today.. tunnel vision .. what is techno anyway? and who's to say what can and can't be linked to it? Isn't that the whole point of it? alien sounds and styles..embracing new ideas and creating new angles.. Buddy Holly only knew 3 chords.. A,D and E.. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who's only into buddy holly whereas the music of buddy holly and the crickets make up a small yet important blip on the tapestry that is rock n roll..
(excuse my cheese) ;)

dont knock the holly... if anything he was a good looking entertainer more than anything...

Music is too often confused with Entertainment when discussing the merits or not of a particular genre.

(not having a go at you WRONG) just thinkin aloud