Dub step.

[RDR]

Shivas is well interesting. .

I still wish it was done on the wax though. I find the bass lacking in abelton sets sometimes.

You really do have achip on your shoulder about this whole vinyl vs digital thing dont you man.

Why?

[TechMouse]

You really do have achip on your shoulder about this whole vinyl vs digital thing dont you man.

In fairness, I didn't read it that way.

He's just commenting on his perception.

It would be interesting to see the results of a double blind test though.

[RDR]

In fairness, I didn't read it that way.

He's just commenting on his perception.

It would be interesting to see the results of a double blind test though.

planky NEVER loses an opportunity to have a dig about vinyl vs digital.

:lol:

Thats right planky... im watching.. ALWAYS watching

[theledge]

You really do have achip on your shoulder about this whole vinyl vs digital thing dont you man.

Why?

Well to be fair, it seems to me like you have an equally big pro-digital chip on yours?

Reckon there's a sticky for this old topic already though :lol:

[stjohn]

Warping in ableton affects the bass region.... i coudlnt quote you any numbers or anything, but i can hear it. for sure...

i would guess there is some sort of phase manipulation by the stretching of the waveforms, around the 400 - 800 Hz area, which is where alot of the punch lies..

i could be totally wrong here...but all i know is that it does affect the sound

[djshiva]

Warping in ableton affects the bass region.... i coudlnt quote you any numbers or anything, but i can hear it. for sure...

i would guess there is some sort of phase manipulation by the stretching of the waveforms, around the 400 - 800 Hz area, which is where alot of the punch lies..

i could be totally wrong here...but all i know is that it does affect the sound

if it is warped in beats mode, there are definitely transient noises, and complex mode also does involve some degradation of sound. however, most of my stuff is warped in "repitch" mode, which does not have the same degradation of sound.

[RDR]

Well to be fair, it seems to me like you have an equally big pro-digital chip on yours?

Reckon there's a sticky for this old topic already though :lol:

Sorry, your wrong man. I own around 1600 records and counting, im a scratch DJ and i love vinyl, to be honest im just giving planky the rise on this one (trolling my bad i know, i know... )

But he knows what im talking about.

i might run a digital label but the issues i have with vinyl are WAY more to do with the business model its been occupying in the years previous to this and the way they have crushed creativity at the expense of labels looking to fund their next release. By this i mean the more commercial end of the market. Not the good folks willing to put their money where their mouth is, in that respect massplank is 100% right, there are some superb releases on vinyl right now, more than there was before - simply because no-one is willing to risk the cash on hits that MAYBE will work.

thats how i see it anyway, id be interested if anyone else had an opinion contrary to this, genuine. BY heck id love to see it all vinyl again, i honeslty would.

[massplanck]

You really do have achip on your shoulder about this whole vinyl vs digital thing dont you man.

Why?

And you take it very personal when I talk about my preference for vinyl over digital formats. Why? Because I grew up listening to it, touching it and I love the sound of it & the bass is fatter and the highs are not as harsh. Sure its more expensive. But I love music & have not problems shelling out to have it in my hand. Vinyl definately moves me more emotionally. I cant describe it, but it has also go to do with the social aspect of it. If I am an abelton DJ how easy it for my mates to call around and have a mess with my setup? Also I stare at a computer screen all day at work. I dont like doing that for another 8 hours when I get home. etc etc

Would I be talking out my ass if i said that most producers on this site would reather have their music pressed to wax? But on the flip side how many of them buy wax? Nothing has changed for me. I'm still buying records. The digital age has given me the power to hear a hell of a lot of stuff I would never have heard before & listen to a track several times over before making that crucial decision to spend 10 euros. The days of walking into a record shop on payday and handing over a hundred quid to buy the ten latest bangers are over. Now I can have anything I ever wanted on vinyl. And Its thanks to the digital age that has enabled this.

I still ENJOY the music from digtal labels. I dont dismiss the music because of the format its on but I do have a preference.

[RDR]

And you take it very personal when I talk about my preference for vinyl over digital formats. Why? Because I grew up listening to it, touching it and I love the sound of it & the bass is fatter and the highs are not as harsh. Sure its more expensive. But I love music & have not problems shelling out to have it in my hand. Vinyl definately moves me more emotionally. I cant describe it, but it has also go to do with the social aspect of it. If I am an abelton DJ how easy it for my mates to call around and have a mess with my setup? Also I stare at a computer screen all day at work. I dont like doing that for another 8 hours when I get home. etc etc

Would I be talking out my ass if i said that most producers on this site would reather have their music pressed to wax? But on the flip side how many of them buy wax? Nothing has changed for me. I'm still buying records. The digital age has given me the power to hear a hell of a lot of stuff I would never have heard before & listen to a track several times over before making that crucial decision to spend 10 euros. The days of walking into a record shop on payday and handing over a hundred quid to buy the ten latest bangers are over. Now I can have anything I ever wanted on vinyl. And Its thanks to the digital age that has enabled this.

I still ENJOY the music from digtal labels. I dont dismiss the music because of the format its on but I do have a preference.

Good comment chief :)

Fair enough I understand now.

[TechMouse]

The whole digital debate is very interesting for dubstep, because like D&B it's a primarily dubplate-based culture. Though on the other hand many of the key players fully embrace digital technology (CD decks and Ableton).

In fact, last time I saw Digital Mystikz they played a pretty much 100% CD set.