i think if arsenal get bayern, then they will defo be going out, certainly arsenal's bogey team and it's not like bayern have worsened either.... but if arsenal get someone else then i expect them to go through.

The last time liverpool played bayern we won 3-2 in the super cup final, but that wont reflect for this season. They are a steady team so I would rather play them in the final or let someone else have a go at them :lol:

Chelsea... he he, plenty of potential problems.... ac milan, barca, juve.... you would never put chelsea as the ultimate favourites. liverpool showed how to stop their playmakers and im sure the other teams will watch those games. betis beat them too.