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    Personally i like the new minimal tracks as much as the older stuff, I can appreciate all of it, The problem these days is too much emphasis is placed on what "genre" you like, But to any true dance/rave music lover, you should love them all regardless!

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    EVERYONE
    Fcuk Everybody, lol.
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    ^^ what tony said. True words. It's a gimpfest out there these days.
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    Umek for sure. Really not into some of his new stuff.

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    Chris Liebing comes to mind that is too good.and other singers have good stuff.lol

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    Its a bit of a limited view to hate artists for changing their style, it comes with the territory of producing music that you will eventually want to do something different. The desire to progress is what got these artists where they are

    That being said I wish Adam Beyer would make some more of his older stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by slinkiemusic View Post
    The desire to sell out is what got these artists where they are
    There, fixed.

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    Who gives a **** who's softened up, who's changed their style.
    I still listen to Slayer. You know why? Because they are still ****ing SLAYER, and because they are honest to do what they became known for and try to be better at it everytime.
    An even better example, Cannibal Corpse, they remain brutal, and get better at what they do everytime.
    The techno producer, and "fan" are ****ing fairweather, bending their tastes and production styles to the masses and what attracts the dollar.
    Techno has changed, because the artist has allowed it to change them, all in pursuit of a buck. To the producers and dj's who don't depend on this medium for their source of income, they remain true to art, which last time I checked, techno was supposed to be, an audio artform. But to the victor the spoils, I am not burnt, because I'd rather listen to cats who keep it true to their art, like my brother DSP, than I would another artist who was the shit in the late 90's early 2000's and went with the crowd.
    The answer shouldn't have been to alienate themselves from techno or hard techno, it should have been to do it better, and do it better consistently, the listener should have been able to tell the two apart, even if eventually.
    I don't, haven't and never will depend on music for a living, because it is unrealistic unless you make music for the masses, or are just a lucky cunt, who people happen to take a liking to your material that much.

    In the end, I hate no one, respect, well, whatever, I'm a grain in the sand, but I wish there was a new slamming couple of releases from Skoog, Wilson, Slobodan, Headroom, Hardcell, you know, the guys who did it right the first time around....
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    I have plenty of thoughts on this, but the one I think is most important is that anyone who makes safe, tepid, inoffensive, and unadventurous music for the sake of making a buck, playing Ibiza, and paying for their hip shades and haircuts, can pretty much f*ck right the frak off.

    And that goes for any genre. If you're doing it for any reason other than because you can't imagine your life without music, I don't give a frak how much money you make: you're a disposable piece of shit.

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    Speedy J, Luke Slater / Planetary Assult

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    Dave Angel used to play some proper f*cking wicked tunes in the early 90s.


    Basically, we all wish it was 20 years ago again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xes View Post
    Dave Angel used to play some proper f*cking wicked tunes in the early 90s.


    Basically, we all wish it was 20 years ago again.
    Dave angel classics is a testiment to the belgian techno style he used to play. He then sold out somehow, I remember listening to BBC radio/Pete Tong in Ibiza and surprise surprise Dave Angel was playing and he started his set with the same tune everyone was playing in their set there, Born Slippy. Don't get me wrong, it was a good tune as long as you let it play out which it then went into banging techno, obviously nobody did. Dave Angel also seemed to release a torrent of "Jazz" techno stuff which TBH wasn't here nor there, probably trying to find a new sound and failing.

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    I certainly don't feel safe at London squat parties anymore. But there are still some really good club nights on. You've got to search for them, but they exist!! (ok, you can't snort K off the floor from someones vomit, but you can still enjoy the night safely without getting robbed blind by some crack head cunt.

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    the only thing that bothers me is why they didnt create a new name for this new genre of music (that mix of house with clicks and pops called minimal techno)

    they still call it techno and its hard to find a techno event or a techno record becouse of that , it even killed the main techno (in some cases becouse in Portugal/spain techno is still techno, we still have great events and clubs )

    techno minimal is nothing new , in the 90`s techno minimal was like "heiko laux - hangin" for example and was good music, now its totally diferent... so this new style should had a new name

    now the styles are extreme there is hard techno ,jump style , minimal techno (LOL) and dark electronica nothing more... (the good funky techno , tribal techno and all that styles are gone...)

    even A.Paul that i liked so much in the 90´s changed is style in is new label Naked Lunch ( i remember very well the good labels he made in 90´s , ONH.CET , Squeeze , x-club , and others)

    i hate simple and boring music... i like percutions , rythms , good grooves , funky , and all of that is gone... now you only got clicks and pops (minimal techno) or a beat + a bass blasting like a empty loop (hard techno)

    i give up producing since 2010 but im considering coming back but moving to hard house or tech house or some kind of music like "Xhin - Key" <-- like this one sounds like the original minimal from the 90´s


    the problem for me is not the new styles , the problem is REPLACING the styles , looks like techno was replaced to another kind of music

    check rock for example that never append in there , hardcore is still harcore , speed power metal is still speed power metal , black metal is the same etc etc and in the same time new styles are born every year with new followers (you are free to choose what concerts you want or what kind of music you want to buy)

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    hate is a strong word ha I wont say hate , some of the artists mentioned already I miss their old ways alright.
    Alex Calver what a great producer of solid techno and hard techno. Really really dont like the stuff he makes these days . Would be great to have him back. umek aswell one of my favs of all time
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    Bas Mooy, Mauro Picotto. Not a fan of the slower minimal style, it bores me tbh. Patrick DSP is in danger of doing this too. He's one of my all time fave techno DJ's/producers as well :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinHQ View Post
    Bas Mooy, Mauro Picotto. Not a fan of the slower minimal style, it bores me tbh. Patrick DSP is in danger of doing this too. He's one of my all time fave techno DJ's/producers as well :(
    Have I missed the genre of speedminimal? :D

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    double post sorry..
    Last edited by Patrick DSP; 04-11-2012 at 02:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColinHQ View Post
    Bas Mooy, Mauro Picotto. Not a fan of the slower minimal style, it bores me tbh. Patrick DSP is in danger of doing this too. He's one of my all time fave techno DJ's/producers as well :(
    much appreciated, but i play to a wide range of crowds. The sets you hear from me depend on the crowd/club/time slots. I hate doing studio sets because they're made to an empty room, but i'll tailor them to the radio show requesting it. i'll still bang it out when appropriate. Times and music always changes but i'll always have acid in my viens. In the end i try to do what i like and what makes me shake my butt, i hope it shakes yours too. =]


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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aueSqBGMhs

    THIS IS A CASE IN POINT. I DID THIS MIX YESTERDAY ONLY TO BE TOLD BY NIGH ON EVERYONE WHO LISTENED THAT THEY WISHED PEOPLE ROCKED IT LIKE THAT THESE DAYS.

    MY QUESTION IS - WHAT THE **** IS STOPPING THEM ?

    WELL, ASIDE FROM LACK OF TALENT AND BALLS.

    I'M NOT WISHING TO SUCK MY OWN COCK HERE BUT I'M RUNNING OUT OF EXAMPLES OF (TO ME) "PROPER" TECHNO. I'VE NEVER CHANGED MY STYLE, I DO ALL KINDS OF MUSIC BUT MY TECHNO HAS ALWAYS ROCKED LIKE THIS. WHY THE **** WOULD I WANT TO LOSE ALL THE MAYHEM AND FILL MY MIXES WITH >NOTHINGNESS< AND THAT ****ING ALL PERVASIVE HISSING NOISE THAT'S ON >EVERYTHING< THESE DAYS ? WELL, UNLESS OF COURSE I WANT TO PLAY AWAKENINGS OR SOME OTHER SUCH SOULLESS MONEY GENERATING SHIT FEST CUSTOM MADE FOR MORONS. "OH, I PLAY RAVES WITH 100,000 PEOPLE" << DOES NO-ONE SPOT THE PROBLEM HERE ?? DOESN'T MATTER, EH, AS LONG AS YOU'RE A "BIG NAME" AND CAN SUCK YOUR OWN COCK IN ENDLESS PRESS RELEASES AND SUCHLIKE. THAT'S WHAT BEING A MUSICIAN IS THESE DAYS, RIGHT ?

    I'M CALLING TIME ON THESE STUPID MOTHER****ERS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

    I REALLY DO LAY THE BLAME SOLELY AT THE DOOR OF "PRODUCERS" JUST TOTALLY ****ING THINGS UP WITH PISS BORING MUSIC THAT GIVES PEOPLE THE WRONG IDEA ABOUT TECHNO. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LAPTOP IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE A DANCE MUSIC PRODUCER. IT MEANS YOU CAN >PRETEND< TO BE ONE, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT.

    ALL I SEE IN "TECHNO" NOWADAYS IS EMULATION, NOT INNOVATION. SAD DAYS AND THE SITUATION HAS NEVER BEEN WORSE. THE ONLY PEOPLE DOING ANYTHING REMOTELY INTERESTING ARE THOSE HIDING IN THE MARGINS.

    IT'S SIMPLE, BASICALLY, ANYONE WITH A "PROMO PACK" IS A CUNT.

    "OH, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PROMOTE YOURSELF AS AN ARTIST" HAVE SOME ****ING CLASS FOR ****S SAKES. GOOD MUSIC SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, ALWAYS HAS. NO-ONE NEEDS TO READ A PRESS RELEASE ABOUT WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE OR HOW MUCH OF A COCKSUCKER YOU'VE BEEN IN THE LAST YEAR. SAVE THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED SPOONFED INFORMATION IN ORDER TO ACCEPT/UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. THIS WAS NEVER THE WAY TO TALK TO THE TECHNO AUDIENCE BUT NOW THAT THESE WANKERS HAVE LOWERED THE BAR TO THE EXTENT THAT MORONS CAN NOW APPRECIATE THEIR MUSIC THIS SORT OF SHIT IS IMPORTANT.

    "OOH CHECK OUR EXCLUSIVE VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH OUR AMAZING ARTISTS!!" << ****ING KILL YOURSELVES. GO BECOME POP STARS IF ADULATION IS WHAT YOU SEEK. CUNTS.
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