View Full Version : What do you think of the UK hard trance production?
Si the Sigh
30-07-2003, 11:38 AM
Just out of interest, "What do you think of the UK hard trance production?" Do you feel its getting nearer to the standards of the Germans, Italians, etc; or have we got a long way to go? I personally think some of the UK production is awesome, with Jay Walker standing out the most for me, but I feel the UK artists are still following too much of a formula. What do you think? And where can the UK hard trance production improve?
Addict
30-07-2003, 11:45 AM
I voted yes but I think its a little too late. What's taken everyone so long? Most of the UK Hard Trance is Uplifting with a few exceptions, I'd like to see them have a go at some real Dark and Twisted trance, Jay Walker could come up with some stunners if he wanted, follow in the footsteps of Kramer and Tom X who are good all rounders.
definately uk hard trance is getting better :D we seem to be producing two kinda styles, underground stuff, and the stuff associated with the hard house scene :evil: the later is crap and sounds like hard house with a trance melody, this stuff is getting worse but its not something i am in to !
now uk underground is producing some top class stuff, trouble is hardstyle is eveywhere, and the uk scene gets associated with hard house :evil:
i personally play a lot of uk productions, and try and limit the number of german and swiss productions i play, this isint easy but i even try to make the german stuff i do play on uk labels ! this never turely happens as we dont seem to get a enough uk producers getting releases ! there is with out a doubt enough quality stuff out there but the uk scene is suffering due to the seemin need for the kick and the base :evil:
I voted yes.Producers like Jay walker are taking UK trance forward admirably, and I hope they continue to do so in the years to come :wink:
Chazbloke
30-07-2003, 02:07 PM
gone for a tentative "yes" as it's gotten better the last 12 months, in so much that it's moving away form the hard house sound and developing it's own style....
but still feel that UK productions are far too uplifting - there is nothing dark and dirty on the melody side of things...havent played a UK produced tune this year, dont think i've even bought one in the last 12 months.. shame, 'cos u should support your own country, but the guys just cant satisfy my need for dark dark dark!
K Front
30-07-2003, 05:25 PM
Agree with chaz, uk production is defo on the up, some brilliant releases in the last year, but they do it best the uplifting way.. Uk hardstyle is not so good at the moment, too hard house influenced.
But yes i think Uk trance will get even better with the likes of Jay Walker and many others around..
uk hard trance, for me is poor (ill refrain from saying shit dont want to go hurting anyones feelings now...or fuk it, its shite) mind you there is k90 and....er.... k90.
no way near the standards of the europeans in my opinion, like a previous post it sounds too much like hard house, lots of energy, but for stimulation fuk all, although id have to admit i havent bothered to listen to much uk hard trance recently, because i know what its going to sound like before the needle hits the record.
fukin english, spoil fukin everything!!! :lol:
wenna
30-07-2003, 10:42 PM
nearly all of my favourite uk releases have been the remixes by foriegn producers. for example: red planet,arya,sirens of time,etc.etc. (with the exception of j walker and one or 2 others).
i think alot of the uk's producers create decent tunes, but the germans,italians etc. polish them off!
DJ Corbzy
30-07-2003, 11:29 PM
yeah the uk boys are rockin it at the mo,
jon the b
jay walker
marcos
k90
need i say more?
Addict
31-07-2003, 08:43 AM
uk hard trance, for me is poor (ill refrain from saying shit dont want to go hurting anyones feelings now...or fuk it, its shite) mind you there is k90 and....er.... k90.
no way near the standards of the europeans in my opinion, like a previous post it sounds too much like hard house, lots of energy, but for stimulation fuk all, although id have to admit i havent bothered to listen to much uk hard trance recently, because i know what its going to sound like before the needle hits the record.
fukin english, spoil fukin everything!!! :lol:
Mate are your ears even attatched to your head? Your listening to the wrong artists and then your generalising on what you've heard, try and listen to a Jay Walker tune or a Jon The Baptist tune or some of Log:one's tunes in the filez section and then tell me that you think it sounds like hard house.
DJ Pearcey
31-07-2003, 09:06 AM
definately uk hard trance is getting better :D we seem to be producing two kinda styles, underground stuff, and the stuff associated with the hard house scene :evil: the later is crap and sounds like hard house with a trance melody, this stuff is getting worse but its not something i am in to !
now uk underground is producing some top class stuff, trouble is hardstyle is eveywhere, and the uk scene gets associated with hard house :evil:
i personally play a lot of uk productions, and try and limit the number of german and swiss productions i play, this isint easy but i even try to make the german stuff i do play on uk labels ! this never turely happens as we dont seem to get a enough uk producers getting releases ! there is with out a doubt enough quality stuff out there but the uk scene is suffering due to the seemin need for the kick and the base :evil:
EXACTLY!!! EDK HAS GOT IT TO A T.
Si the Sigh
31-07-2003, 10:18 AM
I have to say some of DJ BenEye & Log:one's EyeTrance stuff they are working on is awesome! :thumbs up: (Log, sorry for filling your inbox up again...But hey, the Scuba Diving porn was worth it wasn't it! :? )
K Front
31-07-2003, 11:15 AM
i havent bothered to listen to much uk hard trance recently, because i know what its going to sound like before the needle hits the record.
fukin english, spoil fukin everything!!! :lol:
How can you say its shit if you dont even bother to listen to it?
Sorry mate but i cant see how you can critisize something without listening to it..
DJ Corbzy
31-07-2003, 12:26 PM
UK all the Way! :D
Si the Sigh
31-07-2003, 01:28 PM
So next question for you guys: "What do you want to see / hear next with the UK production?" Seems we are starting to sound a bit more like the German's and Italian's, but what does the music / production need next? Ideas?
Addict
31-07-2003, 01:51 PM
Most of us explained this in our previous posts, we would like to see some darker productions rather than just uplifting trance.
Addict
31-07-2003, 01:53 PM
Damn edit button!
I personally would like to see them take the UK sound to another level, they've mastered the german sound now take it forward put the UK on the map for something other than Hard House.
Si the Sigh
31-07-2003, 02:25 PM
So instead of following the German & Italian sound, crack on and create something great and British yea? Time to get out of the fomulas and find something new that makes things interesting again?
Addict
31-07-2003, 02:32 PM
Nail on the head now tell Eye, Log, Chris and yourself to get on the case
i havent bothered to listen to much uk hard trance recently, because i know what its going to sound like before the needle hits the record.
fukin english, spoil fukin everything!!! :lol:
How can you say its shit if you dont even bother to listen to it?
Sorry mate but i cant see how you can critisize something without listening to it..
because after years of hoping the majority of uk hard trance would become on a par with the europeans, i got bored, and besides i stated that i didnt listen to much of it these days, i didnt say that i have stopped listening to it alltogether, i hope it does improve, dont get me wrong, but i feel there are very few uk artists who really do the job for me.
Si the Sigh
31-07-2003, 03:38 PM
Sir yes Sir Addict!!! :lol:
Addict
31-07-2003, 03:39 PM
At ease private :lol:
Addict
31-07-2003, 03:42 PM
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K Front
31-07-2003, 05:39 PM
Sounds good, take the sound on an unknown journey..
baptismo
01-08-2003, 10:20 AM
UK Production is almost at a par with that of the overseas i reckon, depending on other factors which contribute largely to the quality of a german release (ie mastering and pressing) a UK release nowadays can sound just as phat.
Our sound doesnt really lend from oversea's THAT much, its unfair just to pin this to the UK.... everyones music lends from something else nowadays...
People have gotta stop making comparisons, sometimes the fact that a track is released in the UK makes some people not even bother to listen to it... call it international hard trance if ya like...
- didnt know you produced si!! :D would be wicked if you could post us some of your tracks mate... also havent heard any of chris's tunes for ages, would be wicked to hear some of his new tracks...
Addict
01-08-2003, 10:28 AM
Chris's tunes have definitelty got that eurotrance feel to them I loved that tune that sampled "Last Of the Mohicans". I havn't heard anything else recently either.
baptismo
01-08-2003, 10:32 AM
yeah i think ive heard that one, its really cool... all of his tracks are :D It'd be great to hear some new stuff soon, chris is another UK producer who is just waiting to be recognised in my opinion...
Addict
01-08-2003, 10:43 AM
Yup!
Si the Sigh
01-08-2003, 11:38 AM
Techno production mate...Leave the South West hard trance selection to Log:one, BenEye, Chris Hare and The HighFish Crew...I'm more into my phat acid and tasty percussion...Techno all the way lets play... :D
baptismo
01-08-2003, 04:49 PM
Techno production mate...Leave the South West hard trance selection to Log:one, BenEye, Chris Hare and The HighFish Crew...I'm more into my phat acid and tasty percussion...Techno all the way lets play... :D
cool mate :) techno on... any luck on the yellow smitten yet?
Si the Sigh
04-08-2003, 07:57 AM
YES! :D i was at a party on saturday night and spotted it in this geezers box. offered him £10 quid and he said yes i could have it as he thought it was shite (you what?!) and he had only played it once...NICE! :lol:
DJ Corbzy
04-08-2003, 11:45 AM
now that....IS HAPPY DAYS! :D
Addict
04-08-2003, 11:51 AM
YES! :D i was at a party on saturday night and spotted it in this geezers box. offered him £10 quid and he said yes i could have it as he thought it was shite (you what?!) and he had only played it once...NICE! :lol:
Just think, he's thinking "wanker sold him a shit tune for more than I paid for it, idiot"
your thinking "wanker sold me an amazing tune for only a tenner, idiot"
:lol:
Si the Sigh
04-08-2003, 12:07 PM
True mate...Very true! I have seen this infamous yellow smitten go for £50 on eBay before, so I feel I got the main deal! 8)
DJ Corbzy
04-08-2003, 12:09 PM
Paying a tenner for a wanted tune is well worth it, just think it's only about £3 more than buying it new...
I'm gonna go throw up.... :oops:
Si the Sigh
04-08-2003, 12:13 PM
Your a nightmare Corbz...Don't forget to lift the toilet seat before you blow chunks... :oops:
DJ Corbzy
04-08-2003, 12:16 PM
Can you set me up with Miss pussy grinder?
She'll make me feel better! :lol:
Si the Sigh
04-08-2003, 12:27 PM
Oh my god...what the hell was that about man?! Some mad old shit goin down at Lakota on Friday... 8)
DJ Corbzy
04-08-2003, 12:30 PM
INNIT MATE! The sparks actually hurt when they hit you!
I really thought I was sketchin out!
Addict
04-08-2003, 12:35 PM
:? :?:
baptismo
05-08-2003, 03:18 PM
YES! :D i was at a party on saturday night and spotted it in this geezers box. offered him £10 quid and he said yes i could have it as he thought it was shite (you what?!) and he had only played it once...NICE! :lol:
sweet mate!!! happy dayz indeed on the vinyl front :D its wikkid when ya finally get yer sorted after vinyl, nothin beats the feelin... :D
Si the Sigh
05-08-2003, 03:20 PM
It's almost as good a feeling as when you've got the shits and you just and just make it to the bog on time...Aaah! :?
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