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06-10-2005, 02:01 PM
kai

This sounds on the face of it to be some really great news, but I think it will only really apply to indoor venues such as village halls etc, where fire regulations etc can be met in order to get the licence. Also, it won't necessarily be that cheap to get the licence, which will be another cost the promoter of the party will have to think about.

However, it is still good news, as it will make it easier for underground parties to take place and to find venues, as at the moment there is a shortage of clubs willing to put underground events on, and so being more able to put parties on in alternative venues is definately a good thing, although with the cost of the licence to take into accout these parties may not necessarily be free.
06-10-2005, 02:15 PM
jon connor

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

This sounds on the face of it to be some really great news, but I think it will only really apply to indoor venues such as village halls etc, where fire regulations etc can be met in order to get the licence. Also, it won't necessarily be that cheap to get the licence, which will be another cost the promoter of the party will have to think about.

However, it is still good news, as it will make it easier for underground parties to take place and to find venues, as at the moment there is a shortage of clubs willing to put underground events on, and so being more able to put parties on in alternative venues is definately a good thing, although with the cost of the licence to take into accout these parties may not necessarily be free.

nice kai , yea its a bit weird how this is gunna work , and also licence cost will be a big thing , but however it will make things more easy to put a decent underground event on. ;) thanks for that its put a diffrent shed of light on things dude. :clap:
06-10-2005, 02:26 PM
analog tactic

We found the prices on i think guildford councils website.

The prices vairy on location, from about 70-400, sounds like you can get them for outdoor events, but i am sure your gonna need some way of making sure there are adiquete toliets and things, it wont be easy to get and i think you would need a way of proving only 500 are going to attend.
06-10-2005, 02:27 PM
jon connor

yea man a problem :eh:
06-10-2005, 02:29 PM
analog tactic

Oxford say:-

Temporary Event Notices
Temporary Event Notices are for temporary events involving licensable activities.

Such activities can include the sale of alcohol, but the organiser does not need a Personal Licence. Unlike a Premises Licence, you do not have to advertise the application.

Only the police can object to a Temporary Event Notice, on the grounds of crime and disorder. If they do object, the event cannot go ahead unless it is possible to find a solution by negotiation.

A Temporary Event Notice will cost £21.00.

How to apply
Temporary Event Notices are not yet available. The Government will release the necessary forms soon.

Temporary Event Notices cannot be used for events that take place before 24 Nov 2005, but the Regulations and the notices themselves are expected to be available for completion later this year.

Using a Temporary Event Notice
The organiser sends a Temporary Event Notice to the licensing authority, with a copy to the police, at least two weeks before the event will start. We recommend sending notice much earlier than this.

Using Temporary Event Notices for a series of events
It will be possible to send a series of Temporary Event Notices together (for the academic year, for example) provided that the first of the events is at least two weeks from the sending date.

Large-scale events
For larger events it is advisable to send the Temporary Event Notice in earlier and to discuss the arrangements with the police beforehand.

Notes and Regulations
While the Regulations are not yet finalised, many of the provisional details already known are likely to remain the same. For further details, please see the Government's Question and Answer page on the subject.
06-10-2005, 02:30 PM
analog tactic

Southhampton Says

Temporary Event Notices
Temporary event notices (TENs) can be given to permit any of the licensable activities subject to limits on the number of such notices which can be given by an individual or for specific premises. No TEN can be given for an event taking place before the 24th November 2005.

A summary of the law, issued by DCMS, appears below.

Notice will need to be given in writing in the prescribed form (see the link below to the DCMS proposals) to the Council (two copies, with the fee of £21.00) and the Police, and this will need to be at least 10 working days before the event starts. Longer notice will be advantageous, especially where there is a defect in the notice or if objection by the Police is likely, but notices too far in advance (more than six months) may be difficult for the Police to assess and might lead to objections which could otherwise be avoided.

Because of the legal provisions, neither the Police nor the Council will be able to accept such notices by e-mail or fax. TENs will be acknowledged by the Council to the premises user.

It will be possible to give a TEN for any premises, including those which already have premises licences or club premises certificates.

The main restrictions on TENs are as follows:

The event may not have more than 499 people (including staff and organisers) attending at any one time.
An individual is limited to giving 5 TENs in one calendar year, unless they hold a personal licence for the sale of alcohol, in which case they can give no more than 50 TENs.
A limit of 12 TENs may be given in respect of any particular premises in a calendar year.
An event authorised by a TEN may last for no more than 96 hours.
The maximum aggregate duration of the periods covered by TENs at any individual premises is 15 days.
On receipt of a TEN, if the proposed event is not within these restrictions, a counter notice will be issued by the Council and the event will not be authorised.

The Police may only object on crime and disorder grounds, and if they do, notice of a hearing by the Council's Licensing Committee will be given. The Committee can decide to ignore or uphold the Police objection.

Please note that it is not yet possible for TENs to be given, because the necessary regulations have not yet been made by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.

On 9th August 2005 the DCMS issued a consultation on permitted temporary activities and temporary event notices, including draft regulations and forms - please follow the link below.

looks like i was wrong about the sum of money, looks to be £21 standard price.
06-10-2005, 03:07 PM
kai

Hmm, now that is a good deal - £21 is nothing really!
06-10-2005, 03:20 PM
RDR

Longer notice will be advantageous, especially where there is a defect in the notice or if objection by the Police is likely

thats the bit that gets my attention...
06-10-2005, 03:28 PM
jon connor

Quote:

Originally Posted by analog tactic

Oxford say:-

Temporary Event Notices
Temporary Event Notices are for temporary events involving licensable activities.

Such activities can include the sale of alcohol, but the organiser does not need a Personal Licence. Unlike a Premises Licence, you do not have to advertise the application.

Only the police can object to a Temporary Event Notice, on the grounds of crime and disorder. If they do object, the event cannot go ahead unless it is possible to find a solution by negotiation.

A Temporary Event Notice will cost £21.00.

How to apply
Temporary Event Notices are not yet available. The Government will release the necessary forms soon.

Temporary Event Notices cannot be used for events that take place before 24 Nov 2005, but the Regulations and the notices themselves are expected to be available for completion later this year.

Using a Temporary Event Notice
The organiser sends a Temporary Event Notice to the licensing authority, with a copy to the police, at least two weeks before the event will start. We recommend sending notice much earlier than this.

Using Temporary Event Notices for a series of events
It will be possible to send a series of Temporary Event Notices together (for the academic year, for example) provided that the first of the events is at least two weeks from the sending date.

Large-scale events
For larger events it is advisable to send the Temporary Event Notice in earlier and to discuss the arrangements with the police beforehand.

Notes and Regulations
While the Regulations are not yet finalised, many of the provisional details already known are likely to remain the same. For further details, please see the Government's Question and Answer page on the subject.

thankyou very much for that info analogue tactic great input thanks a lot dude :clap:
06-10-2005, 03:28 PM
jon connor

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

Longer notice will be advantageous, especially where there is a defect in the notice or if objection by the Police is likely

thats the bit that gets my attention...

hmmmmmmmmmmm me to :roll:
06-10-2005, 03:34 PM
analog tactic

well, you can get one for up to 96 hours :lol: 3 DAY LEGAL RAVE PARTY FROM HELL

w0w, didnt think i would hear myself say that anytime soon.

one thing, you can get a licence up to 12 times a year for a particular venue, meaning you could cain a squat or field once a month, wonder how the locals would like that :nono:
06-10-2005, 03:43 PM
jon connor

:lol: i smell a rise in uk techno parties :lol: well i hope so and this news has got to motivate a few people aye ;)
06-10-2005, 03:44 PM
jon connor

location.....location....location....... :?:
06-10-2005, 03:45 PM
analog tactic

i hope so, there hasnt been too much in the way of techno this year, its been mainly hard trance and hardstyle
06-10-2005, 05:33 PM
RDR

Quote:

Originally Posted by analog tactic

i hope so, there hasnt been too much in the way of techno this year, its been mainly hard trance and hardstyle

not in scotland mate...or York.
06-10-2005, 05:39 PM
oldbugger

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

Quote:

Originally Posted by analog tactic

i hope so, there hasnt been too much in the way of techno this year, its been mainly hard trance and hardstyle

not in scotland mate...or York.

the whole of the north west is just techno at the moment. you would be hard pushed to find anything else
07-10-2005, 09:49 AM
acidsaturation

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

However, it is still good news, as it will make it easier for underground parties to take place and to find venues, as at the moment there is a shortage of clubs willing to put underground events on, and so being more able to put parties on in alternative venues is definately a good thing, although with the cost of the licence to take into accout these parties may not necessarily be free.

That's fair.

Do think it gives more ammo against illegal parties though...
07-10-2005, 10:45 AM
Jay Pace

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Originally Posted by fresh_an_funky_design

Quote:

Originally Posted by alsynthe

since when did them being a broadsheet not allow them to lie????? every newspaper over emphasises the truth.

i might be wrong but i think broadsheet papers arn't allowed to lie by law,

Broadsheet papers can print anything they want. As can (and as do) tabloids. They just run the risk of being sued for libel.

But they can be hideously factually incorrect, distort details as much as they please etc...

The government can in exceptional circumstances issue orders preventing the press from reporting certain issues, and people can apply for injunctions preventing papers from publishing details of their private lives.

The press are in the business of selling papers at the end of the day. Sensationalising issues such as these sells papers.
07-10-2005, 12:10 PM
fresh_an_funky_design

ah right.. **** knows where i got that information from then!
08-10-2005, 12:37 AM
iffi

Quote:

Originally Posted by analog tactic

i hope so, there hasnt been too much in the way of techno this year, its been mainly hard trance and hardstyle

Not with us it isn't...
08-10-2005, 10:16 AM
eyeswithoutaface

Quote:

Originally Posted by iffi

Quote:

Originally Posted by analog tactic

i hope so, there hasnt been too much in the way of techno this year, its been mainly hard trance and hardstyle

Not with us it isn't...

certainly not with us, its been a veritable techno haven up north for most of the year, and its not looking like slowing down either
08-10-2005, 03:15 PM
jon connor

:lol: yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baby! :lol: hahahahahah! and will get more techno busy up here to if this law comes through. ;)
09-10-2005, 06:28 PM
Louk

this really is good news :)

Louk

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