BRILLIANT!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratron
BRILLIANT!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aratron
absolutely brilliant mix, one of my first proper techno mixes too and a massive influence to me when i was learning to mix techno
bollocks to getting it exactly beat timed, i loved the energy of that mix and still do, cut'n'pasted all over the shop, lovely, you can virtually feel the people bouncing off the ceiling
unfortunately every time ive seen mills live he's played more or less the same set, still enjoyed it though
have you got a copy of this mix. has anyone i would really like to hear it for myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by theledge
i have only seen him play on a youtube video and he played live with this orchestra. im sure you guys have probably seen it.
i had a mix of his aswell which was very eclectic, technically brillaint and very creative. lost it tho.
got it on cd, dunno if it still works it's been kicking about my room for years, i will try and scan it in this week sometime and let u knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Aratron
you're the only one who's talking shite there son.Quote:
Originally Posted by AcidTrash
I dont agree at all. Knowing when to stop when you have an infinite palette and getting colour balance right is one thing, especially when jusdging space and light but two ro at a pinch three record players with a bunch of records which meet a predefined criteria is really not much to write home about. It an experience I quickly tire of. Its musical plate spinnig to me. fun but overrated as an art. Prodcution on the other hand is one thing that doesnt necessarilty get better with practice. some people truly have the gift for it. others are just fakin it and sucking up the cred from the naieve. Myself included.
If you're referring to what I said about phase shifting and flanging, that';s just basic physics. it happens whether you're trying or not and chimps could do it.
Not even impressed by the speed of mixing. If you're skills are up to date then it should take no more than 10 second to match a format you're familiar with. as for the inaccurate chops... might be water walking to you but to me it sounds plain lazy.
Its really simple.
A huge number of people who know a lot about music and performance and love techno think he's pretty special and they rate him highly. Thousands of other people love seeing him perform, and know nothing except that they think he's great.
You don't.
So yeaaaah, maybe we're all wrong.
Or maybe you just don't get it.
Or as you keep saying, a person is intellignet, people are stupid and personality cults are never any measure of taste. For one who has not been mesmerised and watched from an analytical perspective I reserve the right to say I think its a load of toss and do not feel in any way diminished for not hearing more of it.
Wouldn't say he's a personality cult.
He's a funny one though. Sometimes he's pretty rubbish, but when he gets it right its sublime and it honestly feels like he's channeling the spirit of techno - proper laugh out loud stunning stuff that takes over the whole crowd. Never quite been as wrenched about by a dj as I have seeing Mills.
Still pretty crushing when you go see him and he's toilet.
LOL LOL LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by AcidTrash
Coming from somebody who referred to his acid techno as 'Mediocre' in an earlier post
:haha:
You flatter yourself!
The acid techno I make is. Whats your point?
Sorry chuck. Crash and burn.
Banned eh pete, doubtless for your shameful lack of appreciation of classic techno dj sets
Ok I acutally see what your saying here, and to be devils advocado, I do agree to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by AcidTrash
The "DJ" as some super skilled god ethos is dead.
Once everyone bought decks and worked out just how easy it is, that was bound to happen.
Mixing records is a fairly easy skill to master.
However, Mills was there first (ok not first, but you get my point ), and changed the nature of DJ ing. He brought the cut up of hip hop and did it live, with something you could still actually dance too (as opposed to turntablism).
It`s his effect that has earned him his legacy.
There was a before Jeff Mills, and an After Jeff mills, and things defintely changed.
This mix was essentially the flag stuck in the ground that marked this point, in a way.
Regardless of how you think now about it, it did what it did, and it definitely had an effect that essentially anyone involved techno today, is riding on the ripples of, no matter how small those ripples, they are undeniably there in some way. From his labels to his mixing, Jeff Mills influence is there.
I don`t own 1 Mills record. I`ve never dug his tunes at all, but I know that his music has influenced people who`s music I do like, who have in turn influenced or inspired me, so just by that example alone, it shows the effect this "chump" has.
Even acid techno has a bit of mills in it `Trash, so indirectly, your digging mills.
And I am also divided on Mills.
I have seen him at his very best, and I was so stunned at one point in the night, that I stopped moving, and just observed what was happening, both in what he was doing, and how the crowd was being worked, and I was completely (and soberly) blown away. A never ending crescendo of a mix that pretty much levelled every single one of the 2000 people on the dancefloor at some point, for 4 hours, you could see peoples faces, everyone was trying to ride the crest, but pretty much everyone at some point had that "****, he`s done me" look at some point.
I`ve also seen him when he sucks, blowing all the mixes and playing predictable tunes, but that is the nature of how he works. It`s off the cuff and seat of your pants.
So yes, I think Live at the Liquid rooms has pretty much secured itself legendary status within techno circles, and I`m not even sure I like it that much, but it`s status is deserved and undeniable.
Amen.
am away to buy this.....n c wot aw the fuss is aboot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WESBdvsWM0k
check this then, look how quick he mixes changes of life in!
what?Quote:
Originally Posted by drift9
it is utter pwnage!
u dont dj, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by dirty_bass
beatmatching is a easy skill to master, yes, but djing =/= beatmatching.
jesus guys
i've been reading this thread in the shadows
it's more anal than my copy of "Backdoor Boys Volume 13 : More Boys with Backdoors"
worryingQuote:
Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface
quality vid!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham
the drop into DJ Funk - Run is almost perfect, then he balls it right up. Still love it though. As has already been said, the energy in this mix has virtually been unrivalled for over 10 years. If you're bothered about the mixing you're totally missing the point
finally got ma hands on this - ****in luv it!!
"i9" by mills is sum tune - sum belters on it.....just typical jeff mills fast as **** mixing - nice tho
expensive from discogs tho
first time i heard this mix it blew me away just raw to the core techno ,it aint the best mixing but the excitment and the energy of the mix makes up for it
Cubism innit, well, almost.Quote:
Originally Posted by RDR
I haven't heard this album in a very long time, but i do remember being blown away by it when i heard it, just never got around to picking up a copy.
if your a fan of techno and you dj you just wish you had the skillz of jeff mills
for any 1 who's seen him play live like i have you'll know that he's got a lot more up his sleave than just mixin 2turntables i'd like to here you guys do a set of 3 or 4 deck mixin, mixin at a rate of 1 track every 30seconds or so!!!!!
lets see how seemless your mixin is then!!!!
any1 going to take up this challeng cos i'd love to hear the out come....
Agreed, I am all about the mixing. I was quite suprised that he released this actually. I have seen many other sets that were much tighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siege
All in all, great track selection, terrible mixing.
I have done a quick search but not found anything tnagable that I can get hold of to show you guys but search for
Jeff Mills aka The Wizard Wizard mix 1980s Detroit Radio broadcasts
Utter brilliance for the most of it but their remains the old adage of some good, some not so good! its just how it is!!
But it shows the art of the dj and the art of the mix.
will these do?Quote:
Originally Posted by romelpotter
http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com/...nt/view/261/0/
Wizard Mixes
http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_1.mp3 Wizard Mix 1 - 31:19
http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_2.mp3 Wizard Mix 2 - 21:45
http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_3.mp3 Wizard Mix 3 - 50:41
http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_4.mp3 Wizard Mix 4 - 25:12
http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_5.mp3 Wizard Mix 5 - 30:05
http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_6.mp3 Wizard Mix 6 - 13:10
http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_7.mp3 Wizard Mix 7 - 28:27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick DSP
haha, is right mate!! nice one.
I am gonna love listening to these! I have an mp3 somewhere on my comp that my mate got me on to!! Not heard it in ages! Bring on the wizard!
loving that site by the way!! happy days!
awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick DSP
for all you michigan-literate folks, the wizard = a bit of ANN ARBOR history :;
yea the wizard is jeff playing whatever the f uck he wanted at the time GREAT SHIT.
any1 fancy upping this so we can hav a listen? cheers in advance