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    The acid techno I make is. Whats your point?

    Sorry chuck. Crash and burn.

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    Banned eh pete, doubtless for your shameful lack of appreciation of classic techno dj sets
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcidTrash View Post
    I dont agree at all. Knowing when to stop when you have an infinite palette and getting colour balance right is one thing, especially when jusdging space and light but two ro at a pinch three record players with a bunch of records which meet a predefined criteria is really not much to write home about. It an experience I quickly tire of. Its musical plate spinnig to me. fun but overrated as an art.
    Ok I acutally see what your saying here, and to be devils advocado, I do agree to a degree.
    The "DJ" as some super skilled god ethos is dead.
    Once everyone bought decks and worked out just how easy it is, that was bound to happen.
    Mixing records is a fairly easy skill to master.

    However, Mills was there first (ok not first, but you get my point ), and changed the nature of DJ ing. He brought the cut up of hip hop and did it live, with something you could still actually dance too (as opposed to turntablism).
    It`s his effect that has earned him his legacy.
    There was a before Jeff Mills, and an After Jeff mills, and things defintely changed.
    This mix was essentially the flag stuck in the ground that marked this point, in a way.

    Regardless of how you think now about it, it did what it did, and it definitely had an effect that essentially anyone involved techno today, is riding on the ripples of, no matter how small those ripples, they are undeniably there in some way. From his labels to his mixing, Jeff Mills influence is there.

    I don`t own 1 Mills record. I`ve never dug his tunes at all, but I know that his music has influenced people who`s music I do like, who have in turn influenced or inspired me, so just by that example alone, it shows the effect this "chump" has.
    Even acid techno has a bit of mills in it `Trash, so indirectly, your digging mills.

    And I am also divided on Mills.
    I have seen him at his very best, and I was so stunned at one point in the night, that I stopped moving, and just observed what was happening, both in what he was doing, and how the crowd was being worked, and I was completely (and soberly) blown away. A never ending crescendo of a mix that pretty much levelled every single one of the 2000 people on the dancefloor at some point, for 4 hours, you could see peoples faces, everyone was trying to ride the crest, but pretty much everyone at some point had that "****, he`s done me" look at some point.

    I`ve also seen him when he sucks, blowing all the mixes and playing predictable tunes, but that is the nature of how he works. It`s off the cuff and seat of your pants.

    So yes, I think Live at the Liquid rooms has pretty much secured itself legendary status within techno circles, and I`m not even sure I like it that much, but it`s status is deserved and undeniable.
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    Amen.

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    am away to buy this.....n c wot aw the fuss is aboot

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WESBdvsWM0k

    check this then, look how quick he mixes changes of life in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by drift9 View Post
    yeah, The Exhibitionist is utter doodoo. Still scratching my head as to how they decided to release something so poor.
    what?
    it is utter pwnage!
    So. Behind their eyes the hope in them was sickening, and in many, dead. They lived from event to event with a subtle terror of the gap between, filling up their lives with distractions to avoid the emptiness where curiosity should have been, and breathing a gasp of relief when the children passed the point of asking questions about what life was for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirty_bass View Post
    Ok I acutally see what your saying here, and to be devils advocado, I do agree to a degree.
    The "DJ" as some super skilled god ethos is dead.
    Once everyone bought decks and worked out just how easy it is, that was bound to happen.
    Mixing records is a fairly easy skill to master.
    u dont dj, do you?
    beatmatching is a easy skill to master, yes, but djing =/= beatmatching.
    So. Behind their eyes the hope in them was sickening, and in many, dead. They lived from event to event with a subtle terror of the gap between, filling up their lives with distractions to avoid the emptiness where curiosity should have been, and breathing a gasp of relief when the children passed the point of asking questions about what life was for.

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    jesus guys

    i've been reading this thread in the shadows

    it's more anal than my copy of "Backdoor Boys Volume 13 : More Boys with Backdoors"

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface View Post

    it's more anal than my copy of "Backdoor Boys Volume 13 : More Boys with Backdoors"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WESBdvsWM0k

    check this then, look how quick he mixes changes of life in!
    quality vid!!!

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    the drop into DJ Funk - Run is almost perfect, then he balls it right up. Still love it though. As has already been said, the energy in this mix has virtually been unrivalled for over 10 years. If you're bothered about the mixing you're totally missing the point

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    finally got ma hands on this - ****in luv it!!

    "i9" by mills is sum tune - sum belters on it.....just typical jeff mills fast as **** mixing - nice tho

    expensive from discogs tho
    Last edited by ritaheed; 07-04-2008 at 12:34 PM.

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    first time i heard this mix it blew me away just raw to the core techno ,it aint the best mixing but the excitment and the energy of the mix makes up for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDR View Post
    100% I've said it before and i'll say it again, I am 200000% sure that mills makes mistakes on purpose, not all the time, but the mistakes are toooo regular for a DJ of his calibre to be doing that much. He's said it before that his 3 ring circus is just that he'll use the bass of one record, the middle form another and the treble from another and switch between the two.

    for alll the haters i challenge any of them to mix and CREATE which is what he's doing, that well. I dont give a monkeys about mistakes here and there. Its the honesty, dynamism, vitality and funkiness of that performance that shines like so many others fail to do.
    Cubism innit, well, almost.

    I haven't heard this album in a very long time, but i do remember being blown away by it when i heard it, just never got around to picking up a copy.

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    Talking wtf????

    if your a fan of techno and you dj you just wish you had the skillz of jeff mills
    for any 1 who's seen him play live like i have you'll know that he's got a lot more up his sleave than just mixin 2turntables i'd like to here you guys do a set of 3 or 4 deck mixin, mixin at a rate of 1 track every 30seconds or so!!!!!
    lets see how seemless your mixin is then!!!!
    any1 going to take up this challeng cos i'd love to hear the out come....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siege View Post
    I remember hearing this years back...i think it was one of them sets you had to be there, to appreciate fully,but yeah the mixing was f*cking terrible. If you listen to the dvd he brought out where hes mixing in the shop window,the mixings pretty similar.
    I love his style,concept and ideas..playing snippets of god knows how many trks in a set,but personally for me it needs to be tight.
    Agreed, I am all about the mixing. I was quite suprised that he released this actually. I have seen many other sets that were much tighter.

    All in all, great track selection, terrible mixing.

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    I have done a quick search but not found anything tnagable that I can get hold of to show you guys but search for

    Jeff Mills aka The Wizard Wizard mix 1980s Detroit Radio broadcasts

    Utter brilliance for the most of it but their remains the old adage of some good, some not so good! its just how it is!!

    But it shows the art of the dj and the art of the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romelpotter View Post
    I have done a quick search but not found anything tnagable that I can get hold of to show you guys but search for

    Jeff Mills aka The Wizard Wizard mix 1980s Detroit Radio broadcasts

    Utter brilliance for the most of it but their remains the old adage of some good, some not so good! its just how it is!!

    But it shows the art of the dj and the art of the mix.
    will these do?

    http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com/...nt/view/261/0/

    Wizard Mixes

    http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_1.mp3 Wizard Mix 1 - 31:19
    http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_2.mp3 Wizard Mix 2 - 21:45
    http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_3.mp3 Wizard Mix 3 - 50:41
    http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_4.mp3 Wizard Mix 4 - 25:12
    http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_5.mp3 Wizard Mix 5 - 30:05
    http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_6.mp3 Wizard Mix 6 - 13:10
    http://www.detroittechnomixes.com/mi...d_86to89_7.mp3 Wizard Mix 7 - 28:27

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    haha, is right mate!! nice one.

    I am gonna love listening to these! I have an mp3 somewhere on my comp that my mate got me on to!! Not heard it in ages! Bring on the wizard!

    loving that site by the way!! happy days!
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