Mixing Hardstyle

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Originally Posted by Voorheez

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U cant say theres no sequence to hardstyle coz there is, its just moe varied then other styles. Also, why would you want every tune to follow the exact same structure? If that was the case then wheres the skill in mixig em?

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I'm talking about sequences in the tune. Like keeping to a 32/16 beat rythym instead of missing 4 beats somewhere then finshing 16 early here and there.

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I know m8 but thats half the skill in mixing it by allowing for those 4 beats etc. you can do class mixes by crossing the bass after one of these little breaks :cool:

hard style is the easiest style of music ever to mix i think:) even easier than london acid techno.

try mixing some dutch/french hardcore that changes all the way throught it and only lasts 3.5mins

I wouldnt say it was the easiest to mix, not as hard as hardcore techno but still harder than hard house, hardcore etc.

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Originally Posted by serox

hard style is the easiest style of music ever to mix i think:)

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Go mix some trance and then come back and tell me if you feel the same. Or hard trance, or hard house, house, progressive, tech-trance...

I think the confusion in this thread has been over understanding the point I started. I don't think hard style is hard to mix. It isn't. It's is slightly more harder to mix than trance and much more harder to mix than hard house.

My point was based upon STYLE of mixing... and I find smooth mixing is harder to achieve with hardstyle because it can be a bit random on where its breaking down or building up etc... all be it in "time" to some pattern of bar.

Mixing it is not a problem, mixing it to the standard I want to reproduce I find much harder than other genres because I find hardstyle can let you down by doing something you don't expect.

Learning your tunes is one thing, but having to learn every combination of hardstyle tune to make sure your comfortable (in my case) is what my snag was.

I'm getting there... most hardstyle I've got nailed down, there's a few rouge producers though that make life awkward because of unusal timing in there releases.

you can predict what is going to happen all the time, 99% of the hardstyle stuff being made now has the same patterns.

hard house and hard style are the same to mix i think. techno being a bit harder and ther industrial techno/hardcore being 10x harder.

mixing hardstyle means you've got to know the records. Well.. if you want to mix properly right and like it's supposed to be mixed.
Mostly it's mixed on the first beat out of 4.
Producers often keep this in mind while producing the records. (especially saifam productions (for the technoboy sets :P)
Hardstyle is all about building tracks and sets to a climax.
I think it's best when djs skip the first part of a record. It's not appreciated to hear a 6/7 minute song. Make sure you only play like 4/5 minutes of it.

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Originally Posted by serox

you can predict what is going to happen all the time, 99% of the hardstyle stuff being made now has the same patterns.

hard house and hard style are the same to mix i think. techno being a bit harder and ther industrial techno/hardcore being 10x harder.

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if you think mixing hard house and hardstyle are the same thing, then you cannot possibily mixing it how its supposed to mixed :roll:
theres no technical mixing required with hard house and there definately is with hard style.

and really hardcore techno isnt 10x harder to mix at all, its slightly harder but its still not really hard.