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what monitors do u recomend for getting i dont want to be paying shit loads for some i want some good quality ones at reasonable price.any one know any online shops which specialise in this eqipment that could help me out :D :Dps the monitors will be for producing and mixing :)
Prodution and Mixing (which takes it's toll :( ) I thinbk U'd probably go 4 Spirit Absolute 0's... other wise Alesis M1.. which might b a little 2 sensitive 4 djing..
Then the full monty which is highly recomended ... Mackie HR range.. GET IT!!
Z
the cheapest monitors around are the yamaha msp3's £200.00 although they are very small, and a review in future music said they were ok for programming, but not really ideal for mastering (ive got a pair cause im a cheap bastard :D)
dont listen to me though, ze migl's your man.
shit what am i saying :? the yamaha msp3's are not the cheapest monitors around, although they are cheap, for a good pair of monitors its £300.00 minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by COL ECSTATIC
Nobody ever mentions the Kroks which are Absolutly blinding for the money - i got mine £260 second hand and they have a blisteringly tight sound - if perhaps a tad bright, but good room placement can overcome this...
how much do the mackie's run for second hand and how can i get em second hand? i dont trust ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Ze MigL
try the sound on sound website:
www.sospubs.co.uk
they have a wicked second hand forum which ive been using for years, everyone is trustworthy etc and its all lovely and good :wink:
:twisted: Thanks a lot cheif! :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfish
yeah i just picked a pair of these last week myself truly they have a great sound for a pair of passive monitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimfish
sounds expensive :?
I wouldn't say that's neccesarily true, my spirit absolute zeros were £150, and they're as good as any other monitor I've heard... My Girlfriend has got a pair of Acoustic energy monitors and floor standers in our living room which I use for cross referencing...Quote:
Originally Posted by COL ECSTATIC
The Zeros are really good though, good bass response, I got mine after hearing a couple of peoples, really liked the sound of them...
yeah sorry mate i forgot about those, infact i think there about £130/£140 from turnkey (mail order) initially i was looking at getting those, but i was slightly eager, and grabbed the yamaha msp3's for 200 squid.Quote:
Originally Posted by crime
don't forget that with the 0's u still need amp... if possible go 4 active monitors.. a good amp can make a difference but don't forget active monitors generally have 1 amp 4 each major range of freq. (generally meaning 4 amps 4 2 speakers), also they r especially tweaked 2 compensate as much as possible 4 any lienearity lost by the actual speakers!
Guys u r totally right KRok's Rock errr... :roll: . but they might b 2 sensitive 4 djing!?! Any experience u can share on this subject?
All in all, considering u r probably going 2 hammer them a bit with some stompin djing, I would probably go 4 a compromise situation.. 0's with a smart amp like (4 example the) Alesis Ra150..
Z
I'm running a Samson Servo 170 with my zeros... Me mate has the same speakers with a servo 260, not sure if there's much of a difference tho....
i prefer those zero's to the more expensive absolute twos actually..
i have the yorkville bi-active speakers.
they have a nice sub... agressive sound around the 4500 / 5000 Hz.
and a very clear 5000 / 25000 Hz.... it's all i need.
I had a play in Turnkey with a wide array of speakers. Ended up with Alesis M1 Actives, £270. They're lovely... The results of my meanderings are in the trance forum...
Everything else (active) in the price range was too hard sounding in the upper registers, causing fatigue. I can listen to the Alesis for ages without problems! The rest lasted minutes... :o
Compared to even the more expensive (like, £3000) monitors, they had more bass exposed. This could be due to a subtle lift in the frequency response at this region, but it allows you to get more of an idea of what's going on down there... The upper registers seems a little lower than an ideal flat response, but this isn't really a problem. As long as you know it's there, you can still hear all that detail.
Ben
Samson seems 2 b fine but I'm not quite sure how linear's it's inteded 2 b so can't really comment! :-x
I definatly prefer the 0's over the 2's or even the 4p!!
Z
i've got an old pair of electrovoice sentry 100a's and i love them.
i was using alesis monitor 2's but they are too big and loud for sensible monitoring althought they'll shake the room which is fun.
but personally i would not recommend djing through your studio monitors at all it's just too easy to **** up and trash them and the bass rumble really overworks the drivers if i were you i'd actually look at something from richer sounds for your djing something really cheap for like 50 quid and trash them. it'll save you in the long run believe me.
looking for drivers for old studio monitors is a right old pain in the ass.
if you have a speaker switch or better still an amp with a and b speaker outputs you're laughing.
i just got my first pair of monitors....
alesis m1 active mk2 £250.00 crystal sound love highs and lows.. i'd recomend them to anyone..
check out http://www.digitalvillage.co.uk
Listen 2 Dave !!!!! :idea:
Z
Turnkey i hate with a vengence as they never have stock of anything i want for some reason so can I promote a friends music shop in north london here as revenge on them? (no? too late!) www.KMRaudio.com - they are just starting out but promise friendly service and are building a bar downstairs!
Mostly fancy kit and I don't think they are going to do much synth pushing but I'd imagine once they get the builders out they'll be able to do good speaker demos and by the sounds of it serve drinks while you listen :)
Alesis monitors are a little 'soft' sounding compared to others I always thought, but once you get used to them I imagine they work well, I used to know a guy who produced the most fantastic goa trance on an early pair of Alesis speakers ...
What do people think of the Yamaha MSP3s then?
So which to start when you live in an apartment complex and cant rattle as often as you would like while hearing quality sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
Hmm... This could be worrying. I've changed my studio recently so I can get a good listening position and chuck everything through a patch bay. I now patch my DJ mixer through to my Alesis Active M1s...Quote:
Originally Posted by davethedrummer
I don't see this as a problem - I assume the hard cut-off in the sub region would protect my drivers, and I don't play them loud anyway. I tend to mix in the cans, as I get a better high-end response than any speakers I've used. Certainly better than any club system or monitoring booth this side of Buzz DC.
Exactly how much of a problem do you think this is, Dave? I might just start using my 'big' speakers for mixing, to be on the safe side...
Getting a cheap, tinny pair of speakers is a good idea though, as they can be used for testing out mix-downs.
T*
I have a theory that dave likes it LOUD ...
the prob is studio onitors can b sensitive .. so a Limiter would b a good thing... fast transients can b a prob.. but has u r playing vinyl or comercially released cds.. I would say 80% of this prob is atenuated or even almost solved in the mastering stage...
If u c a way of using hi-fi speakers, go 4 it.. U can easily find loads of active speakers in the range of 60-150 w rms form several brands like JBL, DAS, etc... sure some will have a bit of lacking bass but u can do a crazy thing and plac' em in some corners of yer room and check if that give's ya that club boom...
Z
So which to start when you live in an apartment complex and cant rattle as often as you would like while hearing quality sound.
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Originally Posted by Basil Rush
Just got some Hafler M5s and they are really nice and loads of bass without drowning the mid and top end. Highly recommended.
I have the Alesis M1 Active powered's in the studio. They're great! People complain sometimes about hte low end but its fine. For DJing I would just use a regular pair of speakers unless I was doing a professional mix cd. I think if you get too used to having good speakers at home for DJing you won't adjust so easily to the poor setups in clubs and raves.
im usin alesis m1 mk2 actives too.
i think there great, i think there even greater now my ears are used to mixing down tracks.
for the price id say they were excellent, especially for a first pair of home studio monitors (which is what they were for me)
m audio bx 8's sounded good to me but the m1s sounded better and as a bonus were cheaper
i i, they r great monitors, but they do **** me in lower part. what do i do to detect better?
Like someone said, the Yorkville YSM1p is really great, I like them much more than the Alesis monitors.
Genelec 1030 is also some real good stuff.
What do ppl think of the Mackie HR624? They are small but man do they output some serious quality.
Do you guys think a pair of these babies is more than enough to produce material at high quality sound?
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Originally Posted by tekboi
These monitors is pretty good, but if you are after good brilliance and a dynamic bottom, buy something else (Mackie should just producer Mixing consoles!).
Go to your local musicstore and bring some records and test out the monitors, the best way is to listen...
Yes i also have these babies. The active ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattias Fridell (emb)
Really a good sound. Especially for producing techno music.
Check the Adam speakers... they r absolutly amazing 4 they're price, we r talking big time quality... so beware of the price!!!
Check de P11a (around 1400 Euros a pair!! :doh: )
http://www.adam-audio.de/frameset/start.htm
Z
Genelec are the bomb but too damn expensive for my budget :cry:
i really enjoy my Event 20/20 's
I`m using absolute 2`s. Good sound and good price.
Placed correctly the HHB Circle 5 (NOT ACTIVE) with a Samson 260 are truely blinding for both DJ'ing and Production (Techno). When I bought mine I spent a full day at Sound Control going through the lot: Alesis, Absolute, Mackie....Nothing touches the Circle 5's for TECHNO/HEAVY production, and the value is amazing, TRUST ME!
a pathetic range of speakers.
why do u say that...!? I know loads of really astablished producers that can swear by they're Genelecs... example... CIsco just got and adicional pair of 1032A's
Z
might sound like a foolish question, but if i get some of those alesis m1s what else do i need to attach it to my computer? like wires and stuff , cos i understand that theyve got amps in em but i havent got any midior xlr in my comp . or does it go through somewhere else?
mine are sourced from a mixer, pc > phono out > 1/4 jacks >mixer then from mixer > 1/4 jacks > monitorQuote:
Originally Posted by idontlikeitinthathole
I just bought some Alesis and pulled them out of the box last night. I plugged them in 1/8 phono from mac --> XLR into back of them. They sound wonderful. Really clear tight sound. My other monitors were trashed from too much ear bleeding volumn with the decks. Gonna keep these Alesis away from the dj side of the room.