Hardstyle!!! wat is the future?

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22-10-2003, 10:11 PM
Paul Nisbet

Hardstyle!!! wat is the future?

Dont get me wrong guys, i love me hardstyle!!!

But lately, i have found it extremely hard too find the same kinda quality that excited me the same way it did, when i first found this sound?

Anyone also read mixmag this month? Cally and juice or mixmag, watever... were sayin that scot projects - second trip had basically invented hardstyle?? Whats ur thoughs?

Also, just the plain fact that mixmag were slavering a lot of gash about hardstyle, making references too scot project and Yoji, not a single mention out there for the likes of technoboy and the countless italians, german and dutch pioneering the sound?

Whats up guys...
22-10-2003, 10:51 PM
wenna

im glad mixmag arent mentioning the dutch sound :cool:

also, i dont like to be rude, but what the hell do juice and cally or whoever know about hardstyle? :eh:
22-10-2003, 11:29 PM
Spooney

I dont know wenna :roll: I think they just jumped on the big red hardstyle bus!
22-10-2003, 11:35 PM
wenna

thats it!!! :evil: im emailing mixmag to declare that jeff mills created happy hardcore and juice and cally arent actually new skool hardstyle djs,
but cheesebusters.

oh yeah, and nukleuz is the fattest d'n'b label around at the moment. :crackup:
23-10-2003, 08:37 AM
Tobe Cypher23

thought Juice and Cally were pioneers of power trance
23-10-2003, 08:58 AM
Si the Sigh

...what? the art of playing 33's on 45? great! :clap: :roll:
23-10-2003, 09:25 AM
Andy__C

..........not sure bout the Cally & Juice abuse...........they're defo my fav Uk djs right now....really are on fire - they dj with such a party vibe like no other dj............but ur right....it is only recently they've started hitting the hardstyle....and if u actually talk to em they'd admit it too - but they're style really does compliment hardstyle........Cally having some of the best skills of any hard dj :shock:

- that mixmag interview ain't no-where near accurate.........and do think they missed most of the point of hardstyle.........for defo........
I'd blame the journalist :doh:

but good on the C&J boys for really doing the biz right now and getting credit for it though!!!
23-10-2003, 10:24 AM
K Front

I have been up and down with hardstyle at the moment, when i go shopping for records i usally go through about 15-20 hardstyle tunes before i find 1 that i like. Well, i like a lot of them but they either sound the same as the next one or are totally crap.

But when i do find 1 i like it puts my faith back into hardstyle.

I think its a really good sound and hope the commercial side doesnt take over and ruin it.

I dont think scot project invented hardstyle, i think he helped tho..
23-10-2003, 10:39 AM
mattshephard

Quote:

Originally Posted by wenna

also, i dont like to be rude, but what the hell do juice and cally or whoever know about hardstyle? :eh:

they know as much about hardstyle as much as they do abotu mixing
23-10-2003, 11:02 AM
mattshephard

what does annoy me is the lack of respect that mzone gets and then people like cally and juice take all the credit.

Mzone has always been the 1st dj to bring a new sound to england, I dont think many people realise how important mzone has been to influence your vinyl purchases over the years.
23-10-2003, 11:06 AM
Jay M

id say if it was not for Mick then most of us wouldnt be playing what we are ,in the htrance/style scene anyway
23-10-2003, 11:15 AM
Si the Sigh

Word! :clap:
23-10-2003, 11:21 AM
Andy__C

Aye - it was criminal that MZone didn't get a decent mention.............

Don't know exactly how much C&J took the credit........or the journalist just painted it on em as they r getin really big at the mo with Mixmag style clubbin - favs at Fabric, awesome set at creamfields - just signed to Nukleuz (hope that don't mean they gotta play the awful Nuk black tunes ;) )...........................

Don't think it should warrant em gettin slated.............
23-10-2003, 11:54 AM
mattshephard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy__C

Aye - it was criminal that MZone didn't get a decent mention.............

Don't know exactly how much C&J took the credit........or the journalist just painted it on em as they r getin really big at the mo with Mixmag style clubbin - favs at Fabric, awesome set at creamfields - just signed to Nukleuz (hope that don't mean they gotta play the awful Nuk black tunes ;) )...........................

Don't think it should warrant em gettin slated.............

im not slating them just dont like their mixing styles.
23-10-2003, 11:59 AM
Si the Sigh

i think they are very overrated, and to be honest, i laughed when i read the mixmag article. 3 fu*king pages?! when they were supposed to interview DJ The Crow & Mark EG about hardstyle they had 3 sentences tops! complete and utter bollocks.
23-10-2003, 12:48 PM
Barely Human

I think them mentioning about Scott Projects second trip,( :eh: i thought he did the remix and it was Hennes and Colds track :doh: ), invented hardstyle is uter bollox. If you look at it that way then you might as well thank hennes and cold for the simple fact that its the bassline they created that is getting battered in the hardstyle scene.
23-10-2003, 02:01 PM
Jay M

Quote:

Originally Posted by IQ

I think them mentioning about Scott Projects second trip,( :eh: i thought he did the remix and it was Hennes and Colds track :doh: ), invented hardstyle is uter bollox. If you look at it that way then you might as well thank hennes and cold for the simple fact that its the bassline they created that is getting battered in the hardstyle scene.

i might be wron but was it not the Scot Project mix that used that bassline first?
23-10-2003, 02:23 PM
Tobe Cypher23

Si > you got it wrong mate...that article wasn't about The Crow or Mark it was an article about my night in Birmingham called NEO...we had The Crow and Yoji Biomehanika playing. Mark is a resident of the bigger hardtstyle events that we run. Mixmag managed to hash a bad article together whih was done in the perspective of some Sundissential kids going to a hardcore event (yes they thought it was just hardcore event with a line up like that!!!! :nono: :roll: ) . They confused hardstyle and hardcore together in one article and managed to brand it all as one. This caused a lot of shit as I'm sure most of you know.
23-10-2003, 02:26 PM
Si the Sigh

oops! i was wrong. sorry about that Tobe. no disrespect like, but that whole article was fu*king poo! the people at mixmag are a bunch of chud nuts.
23-10-2003, 02:53 PM
Tobe Cypher23

none taken dood :cool:
23-10-2003, 02:54 PM
Si the Sigh

;)
23-10-2003, 04:19 PM
Tobe Cypher23

oh it was nice to get a mention in the top clubs. Even though they got the name wrong it should be NEO not Neo for Ravers. They kinda got confused with the name on the flyer....bless :doh:

see below

http://www.cypheronline.co.uk/graphics/Neo2_front.jpg
24-10-2003, 04:37 PM
Barely Human

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay M

Quote:

Originally Posted by IQ

I think them mentioning about Scott Projects second trip,( :eh: i thought he did the remix and it was Hennes and Colds track :doh: ), invented hardstyle is uter bollox. If you look at it that way then you might as well thank hennes and cold for the simple fact that its the bassline they created that is getting battered in the hardstyle scene.

i might be wron but was it not the Scot Project mix that used that bassline first?

No man, it was on the original mix by hennes and cold first :nono: ;)
24-10-2003, 11:30 PM
nickyblueeyes

aint read the article yet stoped reading mixmag wen the judge jules brigrade took over the trance columns :nono: ... and wen me subscribtion ran out :oops:
i agree with mattshepards comments above m-zone was the biggest if not at least one of the influencing factors of hardstyle comein about the way it did
25-10-2003, 12:04 PM
log:one

well hennes and cold had used the bassline even before that... but surely you have to give them a hell of a lot of credit... i mean it was them that sat there for hours (or maybe a few minutes, but thats irrelevant) making the bassline, only to see it used on hundreds and hundreds of tracks, without any mention, credit or anything... i really feel for them in that respect... i mean, sure, when u release a record your putting yourself open to being sampled, and i dont disagree with sampling per se, but i really do think they deserve more credit than they get, cos god damn that is a proper as **** bassline and its still being used and abused now!!
25-10-2003, 12:48 PM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy__C

..........not sure bout the Cally & Juice abuse...........they're defo my fav Uk djs right now....really are on fire - they dj with such a party vibe like no other dj............but ur right....it is only recently they've started hitting the hardstyle....and if u actually talk to em they'd admit it too - but they're style really does compliment hardstyle........Cally having some of the best skills of any hard dj :shock:

- that mixmag interview ain't no-where near accurate.........and do think they missed most of the point of hardstyle.........for defo........
I'd blame the journalist :doh:

but good on the C&J boys for really doing the biz right now and getting credit for it though!!!

Sorry to say this mate, but juice and cally are proper shite. :lol:
25-10-2003, 01:36 PM
Andy__C

different strokes fer different blokes then bu.............

or maybe everyone gets a slatin some-where when they get to the top (or nearing too it) ;)
25-10-2003, 03:12 PM
Carl

hehe. i just remember the C.C. residents ripping them up :)
25-10-2003, 03:58 PM
WEZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay M

id say if it was not for Mick then most of us wouldnt be playing what we are ,in the htrance/style scene anyway

AMEN :clap:
25-10-2003, 05:54 PM
Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl

hehe. i just remember the C.C. residents ripping them up :)

ahem, wiping the floor with them should i say :clap:
26-10-2003, 02:18 PM
ADDI

Quote:

Originally Posted by WezEnTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay M

id say if it was not for Mick then most of us wouldnt be playing what we are ,in the htrance/style scene anyway

AMEN :clap:

i have to agree here aswell mick has done so much and yet gets **** all respect or recognition for it :cry:

but then again thats what makes him so special!!!!

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