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11-02-2008, 11:49 AM
Aratron

Active Monitors

right i really really need some active monitors. smallish, cheapish, that i can just plug straight into my mixer. so i can put the speakers on some brackets near my head level.

any ideas?
11-02-2008, 11:54 AM
TechMouse

What's your budget?

A mate of mine had Genelecs which were very nice and certainly did the job, but they had a harshness to them over time.

As usual it's one of those things that you can sink massive amounts of cash into if you want.

I hear lots of good things about Adam monitors.
11-02-2008, 11:56 AM
rhythmtech

depends on what you mean by cheapish..

but for good quality at a reasonable price id check out

Adam A7
http://www.adam-audio.de/studio/nearfield/popup/A7.jpg
11-02-2008, 11:56 AM
rhythmtech

or

Mackie HR624 MK2
http://www.mackie.com/products/hrmk2.../624_front.jpg
11-02-2008, 11:57 AM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

What's your budget?

A mate of mine had Genelecs which were very nice and certainly did the job, but they had a harshness to them over time.

As usual it's one of those things that you can sink massive amounts of cash into if you want.

I hear lots of good things about Adam monitors.

well i just want something that does the job isnt too big and doesnt look camp.
maybe 100 pound mark of just over

not like im dave the drummer or anything.
im just running things through my technics midi, speakers on the floor , complete waste of time
11-02-2008, 11:58 AM
Aratron

@rhythmtech and i can just put those into back of my mixer with leads or summat?
11-02-2008, 11:58 AM
rhythmtech

you wont get much for 100 to be perfectly honest

probably
11-02-2008, 11:59 AM
rhythmtech

you wont get much for 100 to be perfectly honest

probably better off getting some good stereo speakers for that money if you're only using for technics
11-02-2008, 11:59 AM
rhythmtech

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

@rhythmtech and i can just put those into back of my mixer with leads or summat?

you can.. but you're looking about 500/600
11-02-2008, 12:02 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhythmtech

you can.. but you're looking about 500/600

right so the lower end active monitors cant do that?

btw im after self power speakers that are small enough to put on a wall mounted bracket near my head level near the decks that i can output through my mixer.
not have to use my technics midi at all. does that make sense?
11-02-2008, 12:06 PM
rhythmtech

lower end can plug straight in - have a look at yamaha.

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/...RODUCT,00.html

still a little above your price.. but like i said you wont getting anything for 100 in the active ranges (and if you do they'll last you about a week before you throw them out the window as the sound will just be so shit)
11-02-2008, 12:07 PM
rhythmtech

or m-audio

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=...studiomonitors
11-02-2008, 12:11 PM
Aratron

@baz

i've seen some at hard to find records but the site is down.

i'll try and put a link later to them let me know what you think.
11-02-2008, 12:22 PM
Aratron

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR218849

Quote:

No amplifier required plugs directly from the back of your mixer

any good?
11-02-2008, 12:34 PM
rhythmtech

being honest i dont know. but stanton arent a big name in studio monitors and, although they used KRK technology, i'd still be inclined to go with a company that have a track record.

try KRK themselves, m-audio, alesis, yamaha etc

check out the future music monitor showdown.. its on the web somewhere

also while i think of it, check out samson rubicons.. they're meant to be quite good.
11-02-2008, 12:43 PM
TechMouse

You can certainly get Active monitors around the £100 mark (each - so £200 for the pair).

Alesis, Yamaha, KRK etc.

They'll certainly be above and beyond most good hi-fi speakers.

But bear in mind that you get what you pay for, and the difference between £200 monitors and £600 monitors is massive.
11-02-2008, 12:53 PM
rhythmtech

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

You can certainly get Active monitors around the £100 mark (each - so £200 for the pair).

.

certainly.. but thats double his original budget!
11-02-2008, 01:00 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

You can certainly get Active monitors around the £100 mark (each - so £200 for the pair).

Alesis, Yamaha, KRK etc.

They'll certainly be above and beyond most good hi-fi speakers.

But bear in mind that you get what you pay for, and the difference between £200 monitors and £600 monitors is massive.

dude will any acitve monitor just plug straight into my mixer?
some of the blurb says it can be plugged into a mixer and for other speakers it doeant say that?
can you help me out?

im willing to pay up to 250 maybe. its my wife who will make me pay.
11-02-2008, 01:04 PM
rhythmtech

active means that it amplification and so will plug directly in.. it it says active then it will.
11-02-2008, 01:12 PM
Jay Pace

Just buy them second hand.

Alesis M1 Actives are big boomy and bassy, quite fun to listen to if a bit frustrating to produce with.

You could pick up a pair 2nd hand pretty easy for around the £100 mark

I wouldn't bother buy anything new for £100

http://search.ebay.co.uk/alesis-m1-a...Q20m1Q20active
11-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

Just buy them second hand.

Alesis M1 Actives are big boomy and bassy, quite fun to listen to if a bit frustrating to produce with.

You could pick up a pair 2nd hand pretty easy for around the £100 mark

I wouldn't bother buy anything new for £100

http://search.ebay.co.uk/alesis-m1-a...Q20m1Q20active

i dont want anything to big, i want to put them on the wall.
11-02-2008, 02:35 PM
BloodStar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

i dont want anything to big, i want to put them on the wall.

putting speakers on the wall is the worst thing you can do, imo. personally, i would put them as far from wall as possible,.
11-02-2008, 02:45 PM
Jay Pace

Good advice, putting speakers on walls does funny things to sound but its not always practical to put them anywhere else.

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dont want anything to big, i want to put them on the wall.

Alesis M1s are much too big then.

Problem is that active speakers are always going to weigh a fair bit, as the amps are contained in the cabinets. Putting them on a wall might be tricky unless you're handy with a drill and you've got solid walls and have strong secure brackets.

Tapco might be ok... not a bad brand (mackie) and small enough to be practical, but still pokey enough to get a good sound

http://www.turnkey.co.uk/product/tap...udio-monitors/
11-02-2008, 02:48 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

dude will any acitve monitor just plug straight into my mixer?
some of the blurb says it can be plugged into a mixer and for other speakers it doeant say that?
can you help me out?

If they're active then it means they have amplification built in.

So yes, they should do what you want.
11-02-2008, 02:49 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

Tapco might be ok... not a bad brand (mackie) and small enough to be practical, but still pokey enough to get a good sound

http://www.turnkey.co.uk/product/tap...udio-monitors/

they look ideal, and they would be okay to plug into my ecler mixer?
11-02-2008, 03:08 PM
Jay Pace

They will work with any mixer.

You just plug the outputs of your mixer into the inputs of the speaker and you're away.

You might need to get adapters of special leads depending on what the inputs are on the speakers and what the outputs are on your ecler - nothing too complicated though. Easy enough to get the right leads, or buy adapters for existing leads.
11-02-2008, 03:21 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

They will work with any mixer.

You just plug the outputs of your mixer into the inputs of the speaker and you're away.

You might need to get adapters of special leads depending on what the inputs are on the speakers and what the outputs are on your ecler - nothing too complicated though. Easy enough to get the right leads, or buy adapters for existing leads.

thanks a lot for that. i should know these things but i get anxious and procrastinate anyway.
11-02-2008, 03:22 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

They will work with any mixer.

You just plug the outputs of your mixer into the inputs of the speaker and you're away.

You might need to get adapters of special leads depending on what the inputs are on the speakers and what the outputs are on your ecler - nothing too complicated though. Easy enough to get the right leads, or buy adapters for existing leads.

another stupid question. it looks like it only has bass and hi output on the speakers will it monitor mid range sounds aswell?
11-02-2008, 03:27 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

another stupid question. it looks like it only has bass and hi output on the speakers will it monitor mid range sounds aswell?

The driver will handle bass and midrange, the tweeter will handle higher frequencies.
11-02-2008, 03:33 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

The driver will handle bass and midrange, the tweeter will handle higher frequencies.

cool.

those speakers are designed by Mackie, am i right in thinking they probably represent best quality for that price range?

btw what size bracket would i need to mount them on the wall (well get my wife to put them on the wall to be more precise)
11-02-2008, 04:59 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

those speakers are designed by Mackie, am i right in thinking they probably represent best quality for that price range?

They would probably be OK.

The thing to remember is that monitors in that price range are bound to colour the sound to a greater or lesser degree.

The critical thing will be to get some speakers that work for you.

I'd recommend going to a pro-audio store and comparing some side by side.

Most places (e.g. DV, Millennium) have this sort of thing set up.

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Originally Posted by Aratron

btw what size bracket would i need to mount them on the wall (well get my wife to put them on the wall to be more precise)

Totally depends on the size of the speaker.

Though as has been said previously, if you're going to mount them on a wall you may just want to go for some high end hi-fi speakers anyway.
12-02-2008, 12:21 AM
dan the acid man

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodStar

putting speakers on the wall is the worst thing you can do, imo. personally, i would put them as far from wall as possible,.

yep, but if you have to, then go for front ported ones like the alesis or fostex pm's.

if i was going for a budget active monitor for mixing i'd go for fostex pm1's or pm0.5's.

You'd probably have to pick the pm1's up secondhand to reach your budget.
12-02-2008, 12:23 AM
dan the acid man

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

They would probably be OK.

Though as has been said previously, if you're going to mount them on a wall you may just want to go for some high end hi-fi speakers anyway.

high end hi-fi speakers? you're talking well over £1,000 for high end hi-fi speakers:smile: and they'd hate being mounted as much as studio monitors
12-02-2008, 01:29 AM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan the acid man

high end hi-fi speakers? you're talking well over £1,000 for high end hi-fi speakers:smile: and they'd hate being mounted as much as studio monitors

what do you suggest?
12-02-2008, 04:00 AM
stjohn

check these out..£170ish

http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_near05_...ldmonitore.htm

i have an ESI soundcard and its a beast for the price i paid. these lads get a nice write up on sound on sound

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may0...esipronear.htm

theres a even more budget pair for 30 quid less too.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_near05_...ldmonitore.htm

and yes they would connect to ur mixer (with the right cable).
12-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Aratron

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STANTON-ATM-6-...QQcmdZViewItem

only 50 quid usually 250 quid for the pair.
might be bidding on this. that way i go under budget get a half decent monitor.

thought i could use my existing set-up and link up one monitor at head height on an exisiting bookshelf.

and maybe when i ve got more cash get another active monitor.
12-02-2008, 12:08 PM
Aratron

shit i dont know what to do now.

i have this hifi

http://www.gumtree.com/london/28/19098528.html

it has a bult in amp.

i oculd run normal speakers through it?

im confused now.
12-02-2008, 12:27 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan the acid man

yep, but if you have to, then go for front ported ones like the alesis or fostex pm's.

if i was going for a budget active monitor for mixing i'd go for fostex pm1's or pm0.5's.

You'd probably have to pick the pm1's up secondhand to reach your budget.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fostex-PM0-4-A...QQcmdZViewItem

what about these Fostex 0.4's?
12-02-2008, 02:55 PM
TechMouse

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan the acid man

high end hi-fi speakers? you're talking well over £1,000 for high end hi-fi speakers:smile: and they'd hate being mounted as much as studio monitors

True enough...

I was thinking more along the lines of hi-fi speakers in the stated budget, which will be pretty good.
12-02-2008, 03:02 PM
ampassasinbirmingham

anyone know whether these are any good...

http://www.turnkey.co.uk/product/tan...il.com&c=track
12-02-2008, 05:23 PM
dan the acid man

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Originally Posted by Aratron

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fostex-PM0-4-A...QQcmdZViewItem

what about these Fostex 0.4's?

they're fine but only go down to 60Hz, i'd personally go for the pm05's instead, or like techmouse said, get some hifi speakers instead, tannoy and wharfedale make some nice budget hifi speakers that will work well, just as long as you can wire them upto your hifi, just needs a + and - connection.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ampassasinbirmingham

anyone know whether these are any good...

http://www.turnkey.co.uk/product/tan...il.com&c=track

never been a fan of tannoy monitors, they colour the sound too much
12-02-2008, 05:30 PM
eyeswithoutaface

i'd personally get some really nice hifi speakers if it's just for djing, some nice bookshelf speakers. I have some wharfedale's just for that, although they are just being used on my hifi seperates system right now, until i get some high end floor standers asap.
12-02-2008, 06:04 PM
TechMouse

If it's just for DJing then you want volume and comfort (i.e. not fatiguing your ear after hours on end) so good Hi Fi speakers will be fine.

You only really need monitors if you're producing.
12-02-2008, 06:17 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

i'd personally get some really nice hifi speakers if it's just for djing, some nice bookshelf speakers. I have some wharfedale's just for that, although they are just being used on my hifi seperates system right now, until i get some high end floor standers asap.

yes what i want is some small speakers that have good clarity of sound
12-02-2008, 06:19 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

True enough...

I was thinking more along the lines of hi-fi speakers in the stated budget, which will be pretty good.

could you show me some examples please?
12-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Aratron

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechMouse

If it's just for DJing then you want volume and comfort (i.e. not fatiguing your ear after hours on end) so good Hi Fi speakers will be fine.

You only really need monitors if you're producing.

http://www.richersounds.co.uk/showpr...-CONTROL1-SIL?
12-02-2008, 11:16 PM
stjohn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aratron

yes what i want is some small speakers that have good clarity of sound

Quote:

Originally Posted by stjohn

check these out..£170ish

http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_near05_...ldmonitore.htm

i have an ESI soundcard and its a beast for the price i paid. these lads get a nice write up on sound on sound

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may0...esipronear.htm

theres a even more budget pair for 30 quid less too.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_near05_...ldmonitore.htm

and yes they would connect to ur mixer (with the right cable).

!!
23-02-2008, 07:10 PM
Aratron

stil procrastinating
however my birthdya is coming up and i only need one active monitor really.

im thinking of getting this.

http://www.dv247.com/invt/27353/

your thoughts?

or this

http://www.dv247.com/invt/30743/
23-02-2008, 08:03 PM
Barely Human

I love the write up for that yamaha -

The Yamaha HS50M monitor delivers performance you can bet your career on.

Lmao.

Anyway, i wouldnt go for the roland at all. The yamaha would be a better bet, but for your purposes i would check out Fostex or KRK. It would be wise stretching your budget a little to get the best you really can afford.
23-02-2008, 08:20 PM
RDR

Quote:

Originally Posted by IQ

I love the write up for that yamaha -

The Yamaha HS50M monitor delivers performance you can bet your career on.

Lmao.

Anyway, i wouldnt go for the roland at all. The yamaha would be a better bet, but for your purposes i would check out Fostex or KRK. It would be wise stretching your budget a little to get the best you really can afford.

+1 dont go near roland with a shity stick.

for DJing dont use studio monitors. Get some small hi fi speakers with a high RMS figure.

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