The way Schranz is going....

[massplanck]

techno started off as electronic soul music. Now its just turning into generic whiteboy rage shit.


Its all 'fhuck the bitch' 'kill the cunt' 'knife the granny' & 'make the bastard bleed' music these days..

[Miromiric]

techno started off as electronic soul music. Now its just turning into generic whiteboy rage shit.


Its all 'fhuck the bitch' 'kill the cunt' 'knife the granny' & 'make the bastard bleed' music these days..

that's whiteboy musack?

[Spire]

Now its just turning into generic whiteboy rage shit.

Hahahaha. Classic.

[audioinjection]

why is it i only hear about techno going down in sales of vinyl.......dnb, house, trance, and hardcore seem to be doing ok no?

[dirty_bass]

why is it i only hear about techno going down in sales of vinyl.......dnb, house, trance, and hardcore seem to be doing ok no?

no and yes.

Vinyl sales are down across the board, but less so in other areas.
In fact music sales are down across the board, it`s just that techno has been hit by this, and a seeming abandonment by the (not so massive) masses.

House will always be the biggest in dance music.
It has more melody, more groove, more vocals for your average person on a night out to sing along too etc

Trance again is more accessable, melody, vox in some cases.

Drum and bass as a music has more cred than techno for some reason. It`s the rougher edgy relation to street culture it has I reckon, rather than the nerdy white boy studio freak relationship that techno has to most people.
There`s still hoards of drum and bass nights, and they still ram em in.
Techno parties are having difficulty holding regular high numbers.
I think it`s just that techno is less popular, it`s either too abstract, too repetative, too hard, or just plain too inaccessable to people.
It`s an aqquired/learned taste, and also, the prevailance of alcohol culture in clubs over the other kind, means the peeps want more recognisable music, for their slower brains.

the real question is why have we lost so many people?
Aging techno generation not going out?
Over repetition and too much DJ based music driven your average joe away?


Hard to say, but the popularity of minimal, and it`s emphasis on grooves and riffs (and closeness to house), to me, points to a need for more soulful music.

Now what kinda worries me a little, is that for a while now, me and my mates have been securely saying to ourselves
"ah it`ll be ok, these things go in cycles, people will get into it again"
But recently, I looked at it a different way.
All musics hit there peak of interest and then settle into their true, smaller fanbase, rather than the popularist fan base.
Take Jazz, for example.
Once was very popular, then settled down.
It never died (allthough tell that to BBc radio) but has settled into it`s place, not really rising back.

Maybe this is the stage techno is at?

It doesn`t really matter too much really.

But hell, we need something to talk about in here.

[dan the acid man]

some great posts in here, im going to read some of them again.

Personally speaking, switching to mp3 for me has enabled me to buy a much wider variety of styles, due to being able to buy more single tracks instead of an ep

[SlavikSvensk]

techno is too anal retentive for the masses

[Si the Sigh]

why is it i only hear about techno going down in sales of vinyl.......dnb, house, trance, and hardcore seem to be doing ok no?

I always wonder the same thing.

My mate owns a record shop. UK Hardcore out sells every techno release by 20 to 1 at the absolute least.

D&B vinyl sales are still high. Hardtrance & Hardstyle sales are still reasonable, as are sales of house and breaks, abet on a smaller scale in the case of this shop.

You can't tell me that MP3's are selling more than vinyl. I really can't believe that at all.

[Jay Pace]

D&B vinyl sales are still high

On D&B - have you heard that "download" track? Jesus.
Bunch of ****ing dinosaurs

[z99]

On D&B - have you heard that "download" track? Jesus.
Bunch of ****ing dinosaurs

muah, definitely

"i need MP3ees, vinyl is dead bruvv -- whaa, u're talking shieeeeeeet"

typical Clipz and his clown army :)


anyhow, what a nice turn for a schranz thread! // although I'm a bit of a vinyl fetishist too, the only thing what kinda bothers me concerning digital revolution is how do we get right music to the right audience in times when even the hard copy market suffers from overproduction? // should come up with new means of marketing, I guess.. other than plain spamming :D

[Scott Kemix]

Schranz is definately going forward with lots of new producers coming through. I would like to see more producers from the UK representing a little more. Schranz is a much larger scene in europe and will continue to lead this genre. I have recently had various visits to european venue's playing schranz, where the vibe and amount of support out there is immense.
I got more into schranz about 2 years ago now, where i became bored of everyone playing the same funky techno and cloning henry's tracks but to no avail. I needed something new and fresh with more energy to the overall sound and schranz seemed the right direction to take. It maybe a little fast and distorted to some people, but it is everyones personal preference to like whatever sound they want. Long live the harder sound!

[davethedrummer]

i love this new wittekind thing i got last week
the sunstorm ep on abstract records
very nice track on the b i think
with a swirly synth pattern and a great drop
its pretty difficult to get the seperation between synths and all those drums but he's done it really well i think
i got it because i was playing in sardinia over chrimbo and the local dj there is a total schranz head , so he had all the latest stuff
and i have to say i didn't hate it nearly as much as before.
it used to be all bootlegs with the worst cheesy trax just ripped to bits but now people seem to be getting into original trax again
which is great i.m.o.
and it's really not bad either.
sure there's always going to be fodder , but thats same anywhere isn't it?
maybe the schranz guys have been guilty of just thrashing it out in the past
but the bar of quality has been raised recently for sure.

[audioinjection]

I always wonder the same thing.

My mate owns a record shop. UK Hardcore out sells every techno release by 20 to 1 at the absolute least.

D&B vinyl sales are still high. Hardtrance & Hardstyle sales are still reasonable, as are sales of house and breaks, abet on a smaller scale in the case of this shop.

You can't tell me that MP3's are selling more than vinyl. I really can't believe that at all.

yeah, i've heard about alot of hardcore and dnb labels still selling nice amounts of vinyl.......although i dont think hardcore and dnb are big in the mp3 market maybe?

[dirty_bass]

I always wonder the same thing.

My mate owns a record shop. UK Hardcore out sells every techno release by 20 to 1 at the absolute least.

D&B vinyl sales are still high. Hardtrance & Hardstyle sales are still reasonable, as are sales of house and breaks, abet on a smaller scale in the case of this shop.

You can't tell me that MP3's are selling more than vinyl. I really can't believe that at all.

No, people just aren`t buying techno.

[Si the Sigh]

There you go.

Nail on the head.

Well done Steve.

This whole vinyl is on it's way out is no where near as bad as people in the techno scene think, as other genres are doing fine. Even MP3 sales in techno are seriously, seriously low compaired to say the hardcore scene. Thats a fact.

I'd say the problem with sales lies with the music personally.

Ah way, back on topic...

Schranz...

*meh!*

[fatcollective]

There you go.

Nail on the head.

Well done Steve.

This whole vinyl is on it's way out is no where near as bad as people in the techno scene think, as other genres are doing fine. Even MP3 sales in techno are seriously, seriously low compaired to say the hardcore scene. Thats a fact.

I'd say the problem with sales lies with the music personally.

Ah way, back on topic...

Schranz...

*meh!*

damn!! i knew i should have stayed withn the hardcore scene...white gloves, whistles and horns and mass record sales!!

[Elvio Neto]

No, people just aren`t buying techno.

i think the internet is causing some of this problems too

i remember in 1995 (in portugal) every kid wants to have a turntable and buy vinyls, sometimes just to have the same tracks the great dj´s play on the partys

now its all diferent , there are millions of p2p programs and warez techno foruns... in seconds they have acess to the mp3 and sometimes the vinyl its not on sale yet

if they want to be djs they download in seconds the last version of tracktor

nobody is selling nothing like in the other times

portugal is a country that consumes many tecnology , whe are the first country to receave (test) and sell new celular phones of famous companys like "Sony Ericsson" and other types of new internet technologies (when i say "first" i mean the big companys release first the stuff here to be tested they say whe are very exacting and if they sell in portugal can sell everywhere)

the slowest adsl here is 4 mb and the standart adsl is 12 mb per second ( 1 second or 2 to download a track in mp3 )

all the people in these days have a fast pc and a fast adsl (even 9 years old kids)

they leave the pc´s downloading all night and day , djsets ,vinyls , cd albums


with all this its very hard to sell the same... some people never enter in a shop in they lives


ps: sorry my bad english

[303Power]

ive been getting into schranz recently

fave tune atm Dj Rush - get on up remixes. made a classic tune even more banging...

the switchblade stuff is off the hook also