The way Schranz is going....

[dirty_bass]

Distro's should focus on the mp3 thing and less vinylshould be pressed, let's face it the day of the bedroom dj is almost numbered vinyl wise.
So maybe runs of 300 pressed should go into effect.
Should that sell then pressings of higher amounts should be repressed.
Supply and demand
Distros expect sales of 1000
Reality is press 300 sell 300
repress.

Unless you want a real bad cut and shitty vinyl, then you won`t break even on 300 if you sell out.
Unless you send out zero promo`s
But I get your point.

[crime]

Why does everyone seem to think that vinyl sales are continuously dropping? there was the big drop about five years ago, but I think it's levelled off since, and in fact as far as the minimal stuff goes, are increasing (with certain labels/ producers)... people who are pretty underground are still doing at least 5 or 600 copies of a record, which is break even point. or is it just your records are doing badly of late DB? (not a dig, an honest question) ;)

If sales figures were dropping at the rate people go on about it here, then surely there would be no more vinly labels, record shops, no more sale of turntables etc....

[dirty_bass]

Why does everyone seem to think that vinyl sales are continuously dropping? there was the big drop about five years ago, but I think it's levelled off since, and in fact as far as the minimal stuff goes, are increasing (with certain labels/ producers)... people who are pretty underground are still doing at least 5 or 600 copies of a record, which is break even point. or is it just your records are doing badly of late DB? (not a dig, an honest question) ;)

If sales figures were dropping at the rate people go on about it here, then surely there would be no more vinly labels, record shops, no more sale of turntables etc....

Well, I`m probably doing as well as any other label of my size. Weathering the storm, but not hitting 3000 any more.
But I`m not griping about my own label at all, I`m thankfull they are selling, and I`ve got other projects and other places to put my eggs.

as for sales levelled off in the market, I`m not so sure.

Your right, minimal sales are great, that`s not what we are talking about here though.
I have found that with my other label, going non techno for distribution has been amazing, but that`s by the by.

But anyway, your totally right, sales aren`t the be all and end all by any stretch, jesus, if they were, I wouldn`t have sunk a load of money into a frankly quite stupid risk of a project for one of my labels.
Integrity and creativity, remaining true to yourself and never standing still, these things are far more important.

Hell, I been on an all night burn in the studio right now, and the only reason I`m typing this now is to give my ears a rest, so despite all the doom and gloom, it`s just banter.

At the end of the day, I love music, and I`ll always be making it, regardless of an audience, and I expect a lot of us are the same.

[Aratron]

Unless you want a real bad cut and shitty vinyl, then you won`t break even on 300 if you sell out.
Unless you send out zero promo`s
But I get your point.

i dont get all this talk of vinyls only selling 300.i spoke to rowland deems otha day (on msn) he was telling me that a recent infected only sold 300 copies i couldnt beleive this as i had a copy a friend of mine had bought 2 copies by mistake, and we live in shit-town doncaster ffs.
if only one techno head in each town had a copy thats more than 300.

[dirty_bass]

i dont get all this talk of vinyls only selling 300.i spoke to rowland deems otha day (on msn) he was telling me that a recent infected only sold 300 copies i couldnt beleive this as i had a copy a friend of mine had bought 2 copies by mistake, and we live in shit-town doncaster ffs.
if only one techno head in each town had a copy thats more than 300.

You`d be surprised mate, I know of some producers who I majorly respect, who I thought would sell boatloads on their name alone who have given me tales of woe about their sales.

But enough doom and gloom I think.

There are plenty of good things happenin too.

[The Overfiend]

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF249123-01-02-02.mp3
The way schranz is going this is dope.

[snooch]

Sam, what track is that?

[TechMouse]

Sam, what track is that?

It's Arkus P.

(The mp3 has id3 tags...)

[The Overfiend]

It's Arkus P.

(The mp3 has id3 tags...)

Arkus P Zweites Mal

[1992]

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF249123-01-02-02.mp3
The way schranz is going this is dope.

Thats not too shabby, what release is this?