MIDI - What does it mean to you?

[dirty_bass]

great topic !!

well midi is something that is overlooked totally in alot of software setups. of course a midi track is using midi, but only really a fraction. now with a semi hardware setup, ive been reading up and im amazed about how much depth the protocol has. channels, message types etc... ive since totally maximised the way my UC33 works by re configuring hte midi messages.

heres to more learning ....

Hate midi, but spent my life using it.
I heard there would be a new protocal, years ago.
It never happened, mores the pity.

[Jay Pace]

Only just getting into MIDI, and only because I've got hardware which needs it.

[ERROR404]

must admit i've never really understood Midi to a depth to be able to use it contructively, its just kind of 'been there'.

Efforts i have seen to try to explain it in laymans terms fall very short in my expectations.

[xfive]

Hate midi, but spent my life using it.
I heard there would be a new protocal, years ago.
It never happened, mores the pity.

Ye old miser! :D

[machina]

I've been using midi for years, and i understand why people hate it or have problems with it - BUT i think the key is to not think about it too much... i have horribly complex midi routings - 12x12 with merging and crap happening everywhere, but have never had any problems...

just logically plug things in and midi is great - as soon as you think about what is actually happening - disaster nearly always ensues

machina

[Farnesol]

Nevermind Mlan!!

Osc is already supported by Reaktor, PD, Supercollider ,jazz Lemur etc.

Nevermind the hardware. Osc is Midi for todays software computing environment.

Sensor based instruments. Trust me :)

[RDR]

Nevermind Mlan!!

Osc is already supported by Reaktor, PD, Supercollider ,jazz Lemur etc.

Nevermind the hardware. Osc is Midi for todays software computing environment.

Sensor based instruments. Trust me :)

Can we have some links to this please?

Thanks.

[detfella]

http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/

[Farnesol]

http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSo...ion-areas.html

[TechMouse]

Osc is already supported by Reaktor, PD, Supercollider ,jazz Lemur etc.

Nevermind the hardware. Osc is Midi for todays software computing environment.

Sensor based instruments. Trust me :)

I agree, it's very interesting.

The problem with OSC is that it's not supported everywhere, like MIDI.

It's a bit defeatist to say "nevermind the hardware"...

I'm not saying you can't make good music with software, I'm just saying it would be nice to have the choice if you want it.

[Farnesol]

I agree, it's very interesting.

The problem with OSC is that it's not supported everywhere, like MIDI.

It's a bit defeatist to say "nevermind the hardware"...

Well the only solution to the problem of OSC not being supported everywhere is by pushing it and promoting it on forums like this. Its the only standard that has the potential to superceed midi. Especially when you consider that you can wrap midi (and other protocols mlan etc i guess) within it.

I suppose i was jumping the gun when i said 'never mind the hardware'.. what i meant to say is never mind the hardware manufacturers who cant see past MIDI. Music production has been gravitating towards a 'total' software environment and 'hardware' nowadays for most people just means 'input devices'. Anyway using OSC for some aspects of making music doesnt mean that you have to suddenly stop using your Juno!! What made you think that you had to 'choose' between one or the other? You build on it.

Lemur & Monome are two pieces of hardware (the dont make any noise though!) that support osc and there are many others (prototypes) in the pipeline.

The implementation of a new generation sensor based hardware\instruments that will catch the publics attention, will be integral to OSC's success IMHO.

[TechMouse]

Music production has been gravitating towards a 'total' software environment and 'hardware' nowadays for most people just means 'input devices'.

Possibly.

Certainly in my case, but I know a lot of people who use almost exclusively hardware devices.

What they could do with is for someone to bring out a new version of the MPC (or whatever) which supports it.

Does OSC run over USB?

Lemur & Monome are two pieces of hardware (the dont make any noise though!) that support osc and there are many others (prototypes) in the pipeline.

Yeah, one of my mates sold his mother to buy a Lemur.

Lovely bit of hardware.

Takes a while to get the most out of it though.

The implementation of a new generation sensor based hardware\instruments that will catch the publics attention, will be integral to OSC's success IMHO.

Funnily enough, I nearly did a Ph. D on this kind of thing.