this is a new low

[DORYL_ROY]

Well I think the saying goes if u haven’t got anything good to say then don’t say anything at all. From what I gather the reasons most of you don’t like this record is because (not in any particular order and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong):

* Poor Production
* The fact it is shranz
* There’s an abba sample in it
* It lacks any real creative insight
* Despite all of these reasons it probably will still do all right when it comes to sales.

IMO I don’t think the person who made this record was taking it serious for a second so why should anyone else. The fact that people feel the need to point out the obvious is stupid. I had one reaction to this record and that reaction was nothing. The way I see it is that he techno scene is a far cry away from how things used to be when it was started with open minded people looking and striving for something different and trying to get away from the commercial music scene and all it entails. The fact that people are now judging and scrutinising almost everything just makes the scene what it was trying to get away from in the first place.
To me its about the freedom to do what ever you ****ing want so hands up to the person who made this. The person may have made this just for financial gain but that’s a whole different story and not what im trying to get across in this instance.
Another thing is is that it seems to me everyone is always looking for something that’s fresh and new. This record of course is neither of those things but how many of you would have the balls to put an abba sample into your tune and just say **** it. If this scene is to keep progressing there needs to be more people with the fuk it attitude but why would anyone want to take a chance when all that seems to happen is people getting chopped down when they do. Obviously putting an abba sample in a track isn’t going to change shit but hopefully you will be able to see what I am trying to say.

[rhythmtech]

* Poor Production
* The fact it is shranz
* There’s an abba sample in it
* It lacks any real creative insight
* Despite all of these reasons it probably will still do all right when it comes to sales.

i really dont think the fact that its schranz has anything to do with it.. theres plenty of good schranz out there.

[DORYL_ROY]

i really dont think the fact that its schranz has anything to do with it.. theres plenty of good schranz out there.

That was just one of the reasons I gave. Yes I agree there is good schranz out there just like there’s quality stuff with all genres of music and also bad. The point I was trying to make is that why people care so much and feel the need to point out that its not that good when its obvious and why in a scene like the techno scene, which imo is all about individuality and freedom, are there people judging when all that its about is to be free to do what you want and not necessarily feel the need to conform and be bound by the shackles of society.

[rhythmtech]

ok i think you're going a little far with it now.. its just a crap tune, its not a damning indication of the scene/style whatsoever.

[DORYL_ROY]

ok i think you're going a little far with it now.. its just a crap tune, its not a damning indication of the scene/style whatsoever.

If it’s just a crap tune and that’s that then why should anyone feel the need to make it known that it’s a crap tune. Isn’t it going a little far to point that out? Why does there seem to be a need to put something down and categorize it. Its this fundamental floor that has saturated the techno scene with shit IMO and im sorry if u think im going to far with it but doing things half hearted isn’t my style and if I have something to say and I feel the need to say it, which isn’t often, then I will.

[rhythmtech]

this is a techno discussion forum and its a crap tune :whoops:

its not discussing this kinda crap thats bad.

if we ignore it like a naughty child will it go away? no.

so y not discuss it in the place that we're meant to? or is it now wrong to say even 2-unlimited were on the crap side?

this place is just so full of extremists.. what the hell is wrong with saying you like/dont like something these days?

if you say you dont like it you get shot down for being negative and if you say you do like it then theres someone lining up to take a stab at your tastes..

should a forum be one big happy cock sucking fest? or as scott so nicely put it "everyone giving the reach around"? or should it be just a place to come and diss everything.. even when you sometimes have no idea what you're talking about?

personally i'd prefer somewhere in between.

crap tune - end of story.

[DORYL_ROY]

this is a techno discussion forum and its a crap tune :whoops:

its not discussing this kinda crap thats bad.

if we ignore it like a naughty child will it go away? no.

so y not discuss it in the place that we're meant to? or is it now wrong to say even 2-unlimited were on the crap side?

this place is just so full of extremists.. what the hell is wrong with saying you like/dont like something these days?

if you say you dont like it you get shot down for being negative and if you say you do like it then theres someone lining up to take a stab at your tastes..

should a forum be one big happy cock sucking fest? or as scott so nicely put it "everyone giving the reach around"? or should it be just a place to come and diss everything.. even when you sometimes have no idea what you're talking about?

personally i'd prefer somewhere in between.

crap tune - end of story.

You have missed my point completely