Is anyone going to Antiworlds 07/07/07 event?

[...Dave...]

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thats harsh.

glad i didnt go. but its a sign of the times.

all uk festivals are shit really anyway. sound levels just take the piss these days

[MARK ANXIOUS]

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thats harsh.

glad i didnt go. but its a sign of the times.

all uk festivals are shit really anyway. sound levels just take the piss these days

enrico (the promoter) isn't a bad guy. i think he just got a little bit out of his depth and after knowing the ticket sales were low, it was either pull the event or put it on and hope. i went down knowing i wasn't going to get paid but sadly was told it was off 40 mins from the venue. i think the situation is here is enrico has tried to do a serious music festival but got certain things to do with promotion wrong. fair play to him for trying but i really do feel for those that spent money on a ticket and felt they got a raw deal. i thnk iit's just one of those things. if it was me i wouldn't try to put a gig on like this without first being a little more recognised as a name out of london.

[davethedrummer]

enrico (the promoter) isn't a bad guy. i think he just got a little bit out of his depth and after knowing the ticket sales were low, it was either pull the event or put it on and hope. i went down knowing i wasn't going to get paid but sadly was told it was off 40 mins from the venue. i think the situation is here is enrico has tried to do a serious music festival but got certain things to do with promotion wrong. fair play to him for trying but i really do feel for those that spent money on a ticket and felt they got a raw deal. i thnk iit's just one of those things. if it was me i wouldn't try to put a gig on like this without first being a little more recognised as a name out of london.

sorry mark i disagree
he is a twat
and i'm not surprised this went the way it did
he's got a bad habit of not paying and not respecting ( did anyone hear about them emptying the loos into the local river????)
and to be honest that is why i was not on the bill

i will not play for him

end of

[RDR]

sorry mark i disagree
he is a twat
and i'm not surprised this went the way it did
he's got a bad habit of not paying and not respecting ( did anyone hear about them emptying the loos into the local river????)
and to be honest that is why i was not on the bill

i will not play for him

end of

Thats a damning indictment.

[dirty_bass]

sorry mark i disagree
he is a twat
and i'm not surprised this went the way it did
he's got a bad habit of not paying and not respecting ( did anyone hear about them emptying the loos into the local river????)
and to be honest that is why i was not on the bill

i will not play for him

end of

Now there is a big old nugget of the truth.
So many naughty things have happened behind the scenes with this "organisation".
Since day dot at tyssen street studios, bad shenanigans have gone on.
It`s about time it was disclosed.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

well i can only go on my own experience. i've been paid all the time apart from alexandra palace and even then it was me who told him not to bother cause he'd obviously lost out. anyway, a forum is the wrong place to get into this surely?? :;

it's a shame, cause the uk does need more events like glade and the like. hopefully we'll get someone else taking the risk in the future, but obviously with a bit more thought about promotion...

[teknorich]

Am going to Glade, and well looking forward to it, but it could do with a bit more techno.
Mark, any chance of you driving up in a minibus and playing the decks out of the back doors, like a crazy mobile disco?!? He he, that'd be ace =)

[MARK ANXIOUS]

Am going to Glade, and well looking forward to it, but it could do with a bit more techno.
Mark, any chance of you driving up in a minibus and playing the decks out of the back doors, like a crazy mobile disco?!? He he, that'd be ace =)

do you know, i was thinking of buying a van next time instead of a car, so that i could do exactly this. i've lost count of the times i've been outside a party thinking wouldn't this be a great spot to bang out some tunes. imagine that. a full on mobile techno machine.

[davethedrummer]

well i can only go on my own experience. i've been paid all the time apart from alexandra palace and even then it was me who told him not to bother cause he'd obviously lost out. anyway, a forum is the wrong place to get into this surely?? :;

it's a shame, cause the uk does need more events like glade and the like. hopefully we'll get someone else taking the risk in the future, but obviously with a bit more thought about promotion...

sorry mark maybe you're right about it being on a forum , apologies if its too harsh ( or too true )
but i have spoken my mind directly to enrico and to many others involved in antiworld
they know my views on it so i don't feel wrong in saying it here
i've got nothing to hide here
you would have got payed along with most "guest" djs most of the time as that was the way they did things at antiworld.

no the reason i am so sore is largely down to the way us "resident" djs were treated over the years

and boy do they know it.

just a little more respect would have gone such a long way

[davethedrummer]

*paid*

[TechMouse]

it's a shame, cause the uk does need more events like glade and the like.

Really?

Surely the fact that it was so woefully undersold is a pretty big indicator that the UK probably doesn't need another event like this.

If the demand was there then there wouldn't have been so many problems.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

Really?

Surely the fact that it was so woefully undersold is a pretty big indicator that the UK probably doesn't need another event like this.

If the demand was there then there wouldn't have been so many problems.

good point. why oh why is techno so unrepresented over here. it drives me insane. i play in holland and 50,000 are dancing to miss djax and luke slater EACH weekend.

i have to say, this event had alot of potential. it just wasnt promoted right... imho...

[tOM B]

Really?

Surely the fact that it was so woefully undersold is a pretty big indicator that the UK probably doesn't need another event like this.

If the demand was there then there wouldn't have been so many problems.

i disagree with this, we work at 6 or 7 festivals every year and 90% of these are sold out - those that aren't are seeing increasing ticket sales every year

I think timing is critical - it is very close to the glade and not long after glastonbury (alot of folks will still be on site there).

The other major factor is don't run before you can walk - 15 000 people is a lot for your first festival. Ok so they couldn't have used that venue but i'm sure there are others. If you start smaller and gain a reputation for being a well organised event then you can grow. The glade was in it's third year last year and only just hit 15 000, it's an extremly well organised event and is always oversubscribed. Also they'd done their stage at glastonbury first - thus meaning they already had their foot in the door with the festival community - unfortunatly antiworld hasn't really been seen as part of the 'festival circuit' and will therefore not attract a certain amount of people who travel event to event.

I think the uk has got the market for events of this kind - the bloc weekender was a huge success - but they do need to be organised and thought out properly.

[spiralx]

Really?

Surely the fact that it was so woefully undersold is a pretty big indicator that the UK probably doesn't need another event like this.

If the demand was there then there wouldn't have been so many problems.

I looked at the techno lineup and was seriously impressed... but it was Antiworld, who have always been a bunch of money-grabbing w*nkers who fail to pay people, over-fill venues and generally put on the most commercial, soulless parties around. They're despised in the psy trance scene because of this and because plenty of people have been screwed over through dealing with Enrico over the years - not being paid, venues having to close due to events involving AW crews, thousands of pounds going "missing" and so on.

Had this lineup been at any other festival there's no way I wouldn't have gone... but AW do have a bad reputation and plenty would've avoided it because of this. Plenty of people never got paid at their last big event at Alexandra Palace apparently, this was always going to be a disaster.

Apparently Ben Sims and DJ Preach were there... not quite the same as the full lineup!