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    Supreme Freak
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    if some kid down your local played like that, you'd be qik to point out his flaws..

    this 'but hes made great trax' line is thin.. his mixing is awful. period.

    i can play waaaay better than that, but i dont get £5,000 a show..

    this is EXACTLY what is wrong with the scene..




    would Utd pay rooney £50,000 when a week when hes 45 on the grounds 'he used to be great'

    i think not..


    as for his tunes.. same shit for over 15 years.. his sound hasnt moved an inch..

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    ummm the mills debate...i have this with my mates all the time... i have seen jeff mills about 4 times and once in at bugged out he was ok but droped stupid 80's gash electroish numbers for like 15 minutes was horrible for those 15mins also he droped take that featuring lulu ...wtf that is just wrong!
    but other 3 times he really was not worth watching... i remeber at creamfields 2004 he was just galloping for 30mins and in end even tho was no other techno on elsewhere had to get the hell away from him. and other 2 are much same.

    this said i love his music , he has without doubt help shape techno and for this im sure the times he nails the 3 decks and pulls off great set fair play...but i for one would not ever go out of my way to see him as he has let me down too many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by module View Post
    as for his tunes.. same shit for over 15 years.. his sound hasnt moved an inch..
    Aahh.. the good old mills debate ... i gotta say though.. although he appears not to be evolving at the moment, lets have a closer look:

    1992/3 - waveform transmission 1 incl. Berlin, the subjects - dark matter/ step to enchantment.. Ruff as arseholes, hard as nails, raw, and at times gabba like proper hardcore techno

    1994 - waveform transmission 3 - Still hard but with loads more disorientating synth work

    1997 - Purpose maker which was so original at the time and pretty much singlehandedly gave birth to every other type of 'hard/bongo/samba/loopy' techno since

    And then he's also got his axis style... more spacey deep dark and driving..

    imo Since about 2000 he's been not that interesting but you can't deny him those first years of raw expression, quality tunage and blatent influence.. Hats off to the man... Yep shoddy mixing at times but thats obviously not his priority.. its not as if he watched the dvds/listened to liquid rooms and gave his approval for the whole world to see/hear whilst thinking 'yeah, my mixing was perfect'.. with mills it was always about the whirlwind of energy and frantic transitions from track to track... the overall bigger picture...
    same as on lots of old dusty funk records... you can often hear the drummer miss a beat or the bass go out of time momentarily... all adds to the swing, the liveness, the energy.. and the MOMENT.. Anyway, thats my guess :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrong View Post
    same as on lots of old dusty funk records... you can often hear the drummer miss a beat or the bass go out of time momentarily... all adds to the swing, the liveness, the energy.. and the MOMENT.. Anyway, thats my guess :)
    word! :p

 

 

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