Too much influence?

[BRADLEE]

Dis is how it looks when ju know me an Brad is in de estudio, cockroaches.

Accept for me it's a bit of this....


and a little bit of this....



:;

[RDR]

I'm not sure if its contradictory to itself.. (that's an oxymoron isn't it?)


I agree with dirty bass about the artists and hacks thing. There are degrees of how high one's emotion is when making music, but usually the best artistic shit comes from, say, someone wanting to cut there ear off..

i know its being picky but there a few visual artists i know who dont rate van gogh. and at the time he wasnt rated at all.

which brings up another interesting point about art/music and vitality.

Death and the artist?

An artists work suddenly gets better after death... why?

there were contemporaries of V.G who were better trained, better eye fro colour and far more prolific - what made him so great.. surely not just the golden raito, or an eye fro colour.

he certainly didnt have a ear for the critics...

[The Overfiend]

The Aristocrats

[clubsynthetic]

ok then. Like MJ. He had the funk

[The Overfiend]

[Ritzi Lee]

to be fair, i couldnt understand what you were getting at with your thread Ritzi mate and i think that's why not many people replied, i couldnt grasp what you were trying to say and i can only presume others didnt also. It doesnt matter who started what thread, as long as the discussion is going on in the first place, which it is here, so its all cool

Well Tony it's really simple. You understand it or you don't. :)
But with so many techno minded people over here, I at least expected all to understand what I was talking about.

[eyeswithoutaface]

well no not really, you said it yourself not many people replied, so im guessing alot of people didnt get what you were saying mate. I certainly understood the your thoughts in your thread, i just didnt understand what conclusion you were trying to come too with your thoughts. I think maybe there would of been more replies if you'd posed the thread as an actual question grammatically too maybe

and its scott matey ;)

[RDR]

Eh?

[The Overfiend]

Well Tony it's really simple. You understand it or you don't. :)
But with so many techno minded people over here, I at least expected all to understand what I was talking about.

I'm Tony so what are you talking about?

[Ritzi Lee]

well no not really, you said it yourself not many people replied, so im guessing alot of people didnt get what you were saying mate. I certainly understood the your thoughts in your thread, i just didnt understand what conclusion you were trying to come too with your thoughts. I think maybe there would of been more replies if you'd posed the thread as an actual question grammatically too maybe

and its scott matey ;)

Shit it was Scott!
haha I obviously missed that one... my bad. :D

Actually the thread already started with the main question "What do you like about techno music?". And then "What am I missing in the new sound?".
But it seems the questions where a bit cryptical. Steve was the only one who really got the point.

[The Overfiend]

Steve is pretty cryptic so I can see how he was able to assess your points.

Since you work with them, I would love to see what Orlando Voorn and Juan thought of modern day techno, all aspects of it. Schranz included.

[Ritzi Lee]

Steve is pretty cryptic so I can see how he was able to assess your points.

Since you work with them, I would love to see what Orlando Voorn and Juan thought of modern day techno, all aspects of it. Schranz included.

Interesting. I could ask them to get their thoughts on this one. By the way, it's all for the benefit of development.

[module]

mmm..

nah.. everybody starts somewhere & trying to emulate those you admire is a great thing..

every great band started out trying to be like their heroes..

its inevitible that you will emulate the sound of those you admire.. from singer songwriters in the Dylan mould, to hard techno djs wanting to be better & faster than Rush..



check this out - i feel nothin for Kratwerk.. jus dont do a thing for me.. but my love of artists like NIN & Jeff Mills (waaay back when..) well, THEY were influenced by Kraftwerk, and as they influence me, i indirectly have a Kraftwerk influence..

i think its a necessary evil in finding your own sound.. i defy anyone to pick up a guitar or sampler & make sumthin totally individual straight of the bat...

like or not, we are influenced by EVRYTHING we hear, regardless of our like or disdain for it..

one of my biggest influences in music is the soundtrak to Assault On Precint 13.. go figure :D

[The Overfiend]

I prefer the Soundtrack to Krush Groove.

[massplanck]

I bet hermits make the best music.

[RDR]

I bet hermits make the best music.

hermans hermits

[dirty_bass]

i know its being picky but there a few visual artists i know who dont rate van gogh. and at the time he wasnt rated at all.

which brings up another interesting point about art/music and vitality.

Death and the artist?

An artists work suddenly gets better after death... why?

there were contemporaries of V.G who were better trained, better eye fro colour and far more prolific - what made him so great.. surely not just the golden raito, or an eye fro colour.

he certainly didnt have a ear for the critics...

Have you ever seen a Van Gogh?
Takes on a whole new meaning when you see the paint on the canvass.
The texture in the brushwork, you can see the madness and schizofrenia within the brushwork, and trace it as it influences him more as the years go on.
I wasn`t a fan at all until I saw it all up close.
Apparently the vortices within the brushwork of his later works follow the patterns very closely, of turbulance within an air body, according to scientists, which is in itself interesting. His mind was literally, a storm.

anyway, it is being picky just choosing him.
Most great artists have been unhinged in some way. I won`t compile a list.

And no Chris, I wouldn`t say I`m mentally stable, or happy all the time, I do suffer from bipolar somewhat, although I`ve learned to ride it, rather than use chems to numb it, and it provides me with great and powerful creative energy. (not that I consider myself to be a great artist, although I do aspire).

[dirty_bass]

one of my biggest influences in music is the soundtrak to Assault On Precint 13.. go figure :D

I`m assuming that you are talking about the original film, and not the hollywood assphuck of recent years.
Man, that is one of Carpenters best soundtrack, I remember I liked it so much, I learned how to play it for my music class performance back in school when I was about 11.

[RDR]

Have you ever seen a Van Gogh?
Takes on a whole new meaning when you see the paint on the canvass.
The texture in the brushwork, you can see the madness and schizofrenia within the brushwork, and trace it as it influences him more as the years go on.
I wasn`t a fan at all until I saw it all up close.
Apparently the vortices within the brushwork of his later works follow the patterns very closely, of turbulance within an air body, according to scientists, which is in itself interesting. His mind was literally, a storm.

anyway, it is being picky just choosing him.
Most great artists have been unhinged in some way. I won`t compile a list.

And no Chris, I wouldn`t say I`m mentally stable, or happy all the time, I do suffer from bipolar somewhat, although I`ve learned to ride it, rather than use chems to numb it, and it provides me with great and powerful creative energy. (not that I consider myself to be a great artist, although I do aspire).

Ok so im barking up the wrong tree here, but i stand by my point - you dont have to be mad to be a great artist and TBh it bugs me that the two seem to go hand in hand.

as for mental problems - im joking man, thats what i do - didnt mean to offend you, god knows ive got my own problems.

[module]

I`m assuming that you are talking about the original film, and not the hollywood assphuck of recent years.
Man, that is one of Carpenters best soundtrack, I remember I liked it so much, I learned how to play it for my music class performance back in school when I was about 11.

the very fact that u need clearence on what version i am referring to.. ;)

seriously though.. yeah. its Carpenters version of Rio Grande that i have been extremely influenced by... a sound track consisting of jus 3 ideas that can have such substance is beyond my comprehension...

AND... the only reason it was done the way it was, is because he ran out of budget.. he wrote, played, recorded, produced & mixed the whole thing himself in about 3 days cos thats all he could afford.. 3 days studio time & no musicians or engineers.. and its amazing.. the tension.. the emotion.. its jus flawless & timeless & the first time i seen that film at about 9 years old i was blown away.. totally stunned.. and to this day, i still get goosebumps watching that film..


'there are no heroes anymore.. only men who follow orders'

take MI:III and stuff it right up your Holywood arse Cruise :D