minimal minimal everywhere minimal.

[dirty_bass]

Wicked reply there mate...haha!
That guy with the synth sure does rock!

HAHAHAHAHA
that rules.
**** minimal, next year everyone will be doing that.

[Jay Pace]

I saw cave last night and he beefed it out.
As did james ruskin when we had him over in March.
As did paul langley when we had him over in May

Green velvet was ****ing good when i saw him at exit. Derrick May rocked it at lost.
And not minimal at all.

So if these guys are chunking out it out, what are they playing? Where are they getting their records from?

Some old, some new, same as always.

i like minimal. its a new type of record to put in the box alongside the others.
Unless you methodically collected every techno and house record released over the last two decades i reckon there's more than a few gems out there waiting to be discovered.

Get digging! Supposedly what djing is all about. Your selection. Can't rely on a "now thats what I call techno album" to deliver the goods in one tidy package each year.

Check out what ruskin and siegling are playing. There's plenty about, just got to keep looking.

[davethedrummer]

todays techno scene is like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gP4Ih58Yzg

everyone's making minimal moves except for that one happy guy behind the keyboard hehe

that's someones dad that is!

[DannyBlack]

theres some good and some bad. just like ever genre.

if it makes me get down and sweaty then i like it, if it dont, then i dont.

[Ritzi Lee]

nag nag nag.
techno labels just need to work harder to sell their records themselves at the shops, then letting it done by a distributor. Do more promotion to the retailers and shops, and keep pushing those sounds.

[eyeswithoutaface]

nag nag nag.
techno labels just need to work harder to sell their records themselves at the shops

spot on mate

too many people take this scene for granted and seem to think it owes them something

[MARK ANXIOUS]

there is definitely a lack of middle ground in techno at the minute. you have shit loads of minimal and shit loads of schranz (which i love - it's all music). but once you really start looking, really searching, you can find it - just not at the rate that it has been. damn, anything that's in fashion is going to easy to find for sure, but what really makes me happy is that the middle stuff i play has been searched for through the hills - a real great feeling when i play it :)

just get on those internet sites mate and find that music. that's what djing is all about :)

[audioinjection]

haha now i see complaints about not enough of the middle ground techno, but back when it was being released more werent people complaining about how it all sounded the same?? geezus

[Split-Personality]

I guess such an international and diverse art is always gonna be open to taste, interpretation and trends..............

"Pays ya moneys makes ya choice".

I only got into Minimal relatively recently, was hard not to when the Beach Parties in Barcelona are so good during Sonar but I digress. Either like it or hate it you cant argue that it hasnt made an impression on a lot of the Genres out there today. Thats not to say thats necessarily a good or bad thing.

[dirty_bass]

Why doesn`t everyone stop band wagon jumping and following trends.
Mix it all up.
Techno is now swinging into the same rigmarole as all other fashion/advertising lead crap.
People need to be told what is in and out, they don`t seem to have the courage to just do stuff on their own merit.

[The Overfiend]

There are some of us who are actively doing our part to continue on the sound which is what you would consider the middle ground.
Anx I feel your pain, and I even agree with you, but I hate to say at the end of the day the only thing you could do is seek further into the past or look harder for the artists that are doing it now.

Damaged Trax
Concrete Djz
Hardsignal
Blackout Audio
Glenn Wilson
Mike Humphries and Mastertraxx
most of the labels on Triple Vision
The F.A.T. Collective
Jon Nuccle
Cave
Zeitgeist is coming to hurt you all
Kay D. Smith and Jon Connor are still cooking up treats as well.
It's out there but to be honest some of the purveyors of it are waning because they think people don't want it anymore.

[Microdot]

try explaining the point of such randomly moaning threads and maybe you wont get people who are involved in the scene your berating giving you their opinions. It's the same for every subgenre, music bobs along in waves, one year everyone is making hard techno, the next everyone will be making tribal etc and it just repeats and repeats, that's how it goes. Those who truely love and have a commitement to making said style will always shine through and be there when those who jump the wagon are onto their next thing

ffs, give it a rest son.

[eyeswithoutaface]

ffs, give it a rest son.

pot calling the kettle black im afraid mate, that radiohead thread was hilarious ;)

[eyeswithoutaface]

There are some of us who are actively doing our part to continue on the sound which is what you would consider the middle ground.
Anx I feel your pain, and I even agree with you, but I hate to say at the end of the day the only thing you could do is seek further into the past or look harder for the artists that are doing it now.

Damaged Trax
Concrete Djz
Hardsignal
Blackout Audio
Glenn Wilson
Mike Humphries and Mastertraxx
most of the labels on Triple Vision
The F.A.T. Collective
Jon Nuccle
Cave
Zeitgeist is coming to hurt you all
Kay D. Smith and Jon Connor are still cooking up treats as well.
It's out there but to be honest some of the purveyors of it are waning because they think people don't want it anymore.

i havent heard any releases from Jon in a couple of years now, but Kay D is still smashing it. I still listen to "Heatflash" regulary, best thing he's done i think. I have to agree though i do think older techno has the edge on the whole, classic labels like Red Seal i personally find you just dont get that edge with the newer hard tech labels, i mean i havent heard anything as damaging as "Nervehammer (forshaw remix)" or anything like the "Wolfman Jack" remix ep in years now, truely hard, thundering techno

your right Tony there is still alot of people doing the middle ground/hard techno sound i dont know what people are worried about. If anything there are just as many, if not more, people doing hard techno. It's all about perception and how hard people are willing to look for what they want, some people just want everything laid out on a plate for them whilst some are happy to get digging in and look, which is when you find most gems.

[Craig_Lea]

just get on those internet sites mate and find that music. that's what djing is all about :)

Not that I actually DJ, but I couldn't agree more.
It's all about the quest :)

[RDR]

Not that I actually DJ, but I couldn't agree more.
It's all about the quest :)

The Art of digging..

hip hop djs been at this for years.. and they've got a LOT more to get through - and they love it.

I find it a bit strange that some people believe there to BE no variety - crikey, there's thousands of different artists out there. And a lot of it is catlogued. in alphabetical order. in genre order too on some of the bigger dowload sites.

there's never been a better time for techno!

[djfilthmonger]

I cant listen to too much minimal thats why I stay away from it, But for christ sake theres lots of great techno out there old and new, Hard and funky and elctric and insane...
got to love techno what a genre spoilt for choice with sub genres and still people give out that theres only one kind around, mix it all up and get nice sound for your self, nothing worse than restricting your self when ur in to music or a dj r general musician, the more influcenes the more unique sound you will develop

[Craig_Lea]

The Art of digging..

hip hop djs been at this for years.. and they've got a LOT more to get through - and they love it.

I find it a bit strange that some people believe there to BE no variety - crikey, there's thousands of different artists out there. And a lot of it is catlogued. in alphabetical order. in genre order too on some of the bigger dowload sites.

there's never been a better time for techno!

theres lots of great techno out there old and new, Hard and funky and elctric and insane...

I've been grabbing downloads over the last few months, and mainly from Juno, but I've found some great stuff.
Lunch times at work generally involve downloading as many clips as possible, usually about 40 or 50.
Listening to them all whilst working, deleting the chaff, and then isolating the best ones.
Mind you, I've been caught out by Juno's method of using one segment of a minute and a half or so a few times.
When the preview clips show the track to be a builder, but when you buy it, after the breakdown it does naff all and is as flat as a pancake.
Gits.
Anyone got any recommendations for download sites that give you a better representation of the tracks?

[Microdot]

pot calling the kettle black im afraid mate, that radiohead thread was hilarious ;)

in what way is it the pot calling the kettle black son?

in that thread, I was voicing concerns about the actions of millionaire popstars making it harder for independent artists to make a living (which if you found hilararious you must either be very, very easily amused or as thick as pigshit).
you, on the other hand, were continually whinging at someone who was concerned that there's a lack of good hard techno around and that everyone is jumping on the minimal bandwagon, despite the fact they'd explained themselves in a civilised and coherant way.

like I said, give it a rest.
try to treat your fellow forum users with a little more respect and not go on the offensive every time someone posts an opinion that's different to yours.

[Microdot]

There are some of us who are actively doing our part to continue on the sound which is what you would consider the middle ground.
Anx I feel your pain, and I even agree with you, but I hate to say at the end of the day the only thing you could do is seek further into the past or look harder for the artists that are doing it now.

Damaged Trax
Concrete Djz
Hardsignal
Blackout Audio
Glenn Wilson
Mike Humphries and Mastertraxx
most of the labels on Triple Vision
The F.A.T. Collective
Jon Nuccle
Cave
Zeitgeist is coming to hurt you all
Kay D. Smith and Jon Connor are still cooking up treats as well.
It's out there but to be honest some of the purveyors of it are waning because they think people don't want it anymore.

word. ppl loving the Red Seal sound need to keep an eye out for Player 029, dropping this November, a thunderous 4 tracker produced by Nuccle and Ignition Technician.