has it all gone a bit too ravey?

[ds2]

there seems to be a lot of clubs these days that are putting on as many djs as they can at their nights and giving them anything from 30 mins to 1 hour to play.

is it just me or has it all gone a bit too ravey, is it a knock on effect from the hard house to techno mass bandwagon jump of a few years ago?

there's a party i've seen that's on this weekend where mark eg is playing for 30 minutes. what's the point in that? :whoops:

[conflict]

no point what so ever

[teknorich]

I grew up in the Happy Hardcore and Hardcore techno scene, so I'm used to shorter sets. I don't really want to see a DJ play for 4 hours, just can't get my head round it. But I'd say the minmum should be an hour, maybe the optimum 2 hours?
30 mins is a waste of time. He'll hardly be warmed up when it'll already be time to mix out for the next guy...

[eyeswithoutaface]

yeah it can take a good 15-20 mins to get into the swing of things sometimes, the minimum set should be 1hr 30 mins, maximum, whatever really, some of the best sets i've seen have been the longest. Dave Clarke did a wikid 4 hour set in Manchester about 6 years ago that stand's out in my memory

[nuclearaudio]

hes playing in 2 rooms at the evnt and was only put on in the techno room because he requested to play , he is doin a hardstlye set in the main room fro 40 mins and a techno set for 40 mins , pretty cool i'd say ,

variety is the spice of life

[nuclearaudio]

and hes playing the last set of the night so wont be anyone on after him ,

didnt mark do a 21 minute to know on radio one , was pretty amazing how he managed to showcase the kind of techno it was in so little time , maybe this will have the same effect in a 40 min set,
?

[ds2]

i'm not knocking your night, whatever works for you i guess. i just used mark's set as an example of one of many right now.

it's just not what techno's about for me. i grew up seeing people like jeff mills, fumiya tanaka, rob hood and even sven vath play 3 hours upwards and have the whole club eating out of their hands with no one leaving the dancefloors all night.

The first time BMB played for us in 2004 with Female they did something like 4 1/2 hours and that ranks as one of the best sets i've ever heard. And yet Surgeon's on in Leeds next week playing on a line up of 8 djs/live acts in the space of 7 hours. :whoops:

i must be getting old.

[Numeric]

i was really diggin the 21 Minutes to Know set but a lot of folk on here dissed it...

with rich on the set times, hour mimimum but four hours seems excessive...

[The Overfiend]

I think you need at least an hour to get open.
Unless the crowd is specifically there to get their heads bashed in right off the bat.

[DannyBlack]

Personally i dont mind that, the Kommunity boys gave me and filthmonger 45 minutes each a while back because they had 2 headliners. i was delighted, its all good like.

[Lag]

why the hell wouldnt they do that?
30 min means everybody gives their best stuff away
always look on the bright side of life :]

[Stella Boy]

30 min means everybody gives their best stuff away

classic

[wenna]

no problem for me whatsoever!

[Little_Fella!]

Yeah, I do think that playing for 30 mins does mean that you have to get your big guns out straight away, but I suppose this is what promoters are wanting for the punters, as well as increasing the number of bigger names on the rosta...

Plus I suppose this gives players who aren't as well established, in relation to the level of popularity of the headliners, a bit of elbow room for once... which I'm sure those particular artists are rather pleased for this to be the case... :;

[Tiptoe]

i love plaing my 30 mins every few months :-0

[MARK ANXIOUS]

yeah well it was either 1 hour in the hard dancey room or ask if i could cut it down and play some techno too hehe. i know what you guys would do if you were in that situation hahahah :)

[Little_Fella!]

So as an artist you have to way up the pros n cons of such a set up...

Do you give up the chance to show how you can create and craft a set that has dynamic progression for the chance of some exposure amongst what you would class as higher circles within your chosen genre...:icon5:

I personally would feel that I was finishing my set before I'd even started, so I certainly would not have that sense of creative satisfaction thus making the experience seem a little hollow and lacking in achievement...

[Technobitch]

yeah well it was either 1 hour in the hard dancey room or ask if i could cut it down and play some techno too hehe. i know what you guys would do if you were in that situation hahahah :)

well you know which room ill be dancing to you in hahahaha

[Little_Fella!]

Having said that I would certainly prefer to have 30 mins pounding away with my chosen genre of music, rather than no minutes at all...:mrmyagi:

[dirty_bass]

short sets suck.
It`s the equivalent of one of these compressed TV adverts.
Just Bam.
No subtlety, no journey, no ups and downs, it merely drives DJ`s to play the more commercial stuff, and leaves little room for experimentation.

Might as well join the pop music industry.

You see these adverts in london all the time for house and garage.

40DJs
35 MCs!!!!!!
No trainers, no caps, no hoodies, no guns, no knives, no crack, no fun, just give us your money, stick yer head through the door for 5 mins and then **** off, cos we just wanna spend the takings on coke!!!