what is the best 303 emulation soft synth

[AcidTrash]

audio realism bassline two is good

is what i use anyway

got the built in 303 style sequencer to get it slippin an slidin

You can do the same with midi patterns and varying velocity. But why bother? abl is the shit.

This is the abl. If abl isnt good enough for you, nothing will be.

[davethedrummer]

You can do the same with midi patterns and varying velocity. But why bother? abl is the shit.

This is the abl. If abl isnt good enough for you, nothing will be.

sorry mate i have to say you are way off the mark if you think the ABL can totally replace the real thing.

it's pretty good for sure
but the real thing still has that edge especially at high resonance settings, at least to my ears it does.
and i disagree with the shitty distortion / crappy desk argument too
it's still analogue mate and some things just sound better than others.
put the real thing through the mackie and hey presto !

[MARK ANXIOUS]

sorry but i totally agree with d the d. abl is good but if you really do know the true sound of the tb-303, you'll notice a difference - especially if you use shitty batteries in it. just my 2 cents :)

[Electrictribe]

sorry mate i have to say you are way off the mark if you think the ABL can totally replace the real thing.

it's pretty good for sure
but the real thing still has that edge especially at high resonance settings, at least to my ears it does.
and i disagree with the shitty distortion / crappy desk argument too
it's still analogue mate and some things just sound better than others.
put the real thing through the mackie and hey presto !

Agreed. I have phoscyon, and ABL. ABL is my choice of the 2 and it does do a good job. But it never sits aswell in the mix as my tb. The resonance and the accent just sound better.

[xes]

with reguards to hardware clones,what is the general thoughts on the futureretro revolution? Here's a little video comparing it to a tb 303
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkALw...eature=related

[Electrictribe]

with reguards to hardware clones,what is the general thoughts on the futureretro revolution? Here's a little video comparing it to a tb 303
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkALw...eature=related

Is meant to be pretty good from what i have heard. Think they are around £600. Not seen them on sale in the UK somewher ein germany stocks them though i think can't remember the name of the shop though.

[AcidTrash]

sorry mate i have to say you are way off the mark if you think the ABL can totally replace the real thing.

I have near as dammit the real thing and "that sound" is totally achievable with the inbuilt foldback distortion on ABL (with added after effects). In many respects this analogue solutions TBX303 thing is even more versatile for an analogue acid box and I still wouldn't go to the effort of plugging it in for Skankadelic style or hard dance style acidlines.

If you want that hyper psychedelic hi res sound with hi mod, sure I take my hat off to analogue but soon as you mix it down into a track it really doesn't add much. I only really notice "that sound" when it's playing live but then I'm betting that if I spent as much time with phoscyon as I have with this and other emulators I could produce a track even you wouldn't know for sure.

it's pretty good for sure
but the real thing still has that edge especially at high resonance settings, at least to my ears it does.

You mean to tell me after near two decades of being a travelling DJ you still have that hearing range? ;)

and i disagree with the shitty distortion / crappy desk argument too
it's still analogue mate and some things just sound better than others. put the real thing through the mackie and hey presto !

But once it's recorded it's then digital so it's a pretty redundant argument, no? Unless you're maintaining analogue purity throughout or very high quality 24bit recording, which incidentally will not burn onto CD at that rate.

I really notice the difference in sound from all analogue live sets the likes of eggybamyasi and hardfloor but I'm still gonna go out there and say, sound quality aside, it still sounds ameteurish and not nealy as dynamic as the latter day acid techno. In my humblest opinion.

But then like all things, it really does depend on what you're trying to achieve. I couldn't get the ABL to replicate say Lock or International rescue but I can't get this clone to either. Hell, I can't even get this thing sounding the same twice. I suppose that is the merit of having one but it''s damn annoying if you find something and want to revisit it.

[force]

But once it's recorded it's then digital so it's a pretty redundant argument, no? Unless you're maintaining analogue purity throughout or very high quality 24bit recording, which incidentally will not burn onto CD at that rate.

:lol:

You just don't get it, do you????

[Metadog]

You can do the same with midi patterns and varying velocity. But why bother? abl is the shit.

This is the abl. If abl isnt good enough for you, nothing will be.

wrong mate, you can't do the same with midi patterns and varying velocity

well i can't at any rate

believe me i tried for eight or so years and just got stiff acid lines

then worked with mik cree who can program 303 lines into the sequencer and realised that was the way to get slick slidin lines

eventually got into programmin the internal sequencer on audio realism bassline and all of a sudden slippin slidin acid was at my fingertips

[davethedrummer]

yeah it's the sequencer really that does the trick

i just got that phosycon one now , it's not bad either

[rhythmtech]

i just got that phosycon one now , it's not bad either

i use ABL for twisted slippy 303 lines and phoscyon for real barky staccato stuff.

2 great vst's imo