**format wars** vinyl ? mp3 ? cd ? turntables ? ableton ?

[the_psychologist]

Embracing & using new technology is what techno is all about for me & the core principle of this style of music. I'll use any 'format/bit of kit' to push noize onto the dance floor.

I have't read the whole 13 pages so I don't no if the following area has been covered.

The only issue I have with the die off of vinyl is the die off of local record shops that support local scenes. My experience of record shops is that you could find out where the local parties were going on, meet other DJs who were into the same sound as you, put your flyers in there for your night, etc, etc, etc.

With buying tunes online you don't seem to get so much partisipation in the scene & I worry that music scenes will die off as a result of online selling.

Yeah, that's a very good point. As we move ever closer to the "futuristic" vision of autonomous, secluded life in our connected homes, we really lose a sense of community. This has definitely happened in dance music, due partly to the death of vinyl shops.

Unfortunately, vinyl by nature is limiting for a DJ. So people who embrace technology will clearly move beyond it. I still have hundreds of records, but some venues don't even have turntables now. I play some gigs where they don't even have CD decks.

Formats like Laserdisc and vinyl were doomed from the start due to the natural progression of technology. Things get smaller and smaller, they don't stay the same size. End of.

The biggest problem was that many MANY artists and labels ignored the coming tide, both mainstream and indie. They had years to get a digital system in place, but chose to march forward with blinders on.

[TomFoolery]

Yeah, that's a very good point. As we move ever closer to the "futuristic" vision of autonomous, secluded life in our connected homes, we really lose a sense of community. This has definitely happened in dance music, due partly to the death of vinyl shops.

Unfortunately, vinyl by nature is limiting for a DJ. So people who embrace technology will clearly move beyond it. I still have hundreds of records, but some venues don't even have turntables now. I play some gigs where they don't even have CD decks.

Formats like Laserdisc and vinyl were doomed from the start due to the natural progression of technology. Things get smaller and smaller, they don't stay the same size. End of.

The biggest problem was that many MANY artists and labels ignored the coming tide, both mainstream and indie. They had years to get a digital system in place, but chose to march forward with blinders on.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. TECHNO is short for TECHNOLOGICAL. Its essence is its ability to advance with new technology, hence why all electronically created music was called techno back in the day. Personally i love vinyl and i am saddened to think that it might die but the point is that techno should advance with new technology and eventually artists won't be releasing vinyls (due to the limitations). So software like ableton is the way forward. That being said, it doesn't mean that other formats are wrong or bad, they're just outdated. There will come a time where people who still spin vinyls will be refered to as classical djs. I definately agree that theres something special about having a vinyl of your favourite tune in your hands which you cannot recreate with mp3 and I'm gonna keep building my collection, for the sake of having a collection of vinyl.

By the by check out this badboi (for those of you who like to combine cd/mp3 with ableton)-----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izLK7_9X1DA

[Microdot]

By the by check out this badboi (for those of you who like to combine cd/mp3 with ableton)-----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izLK7_9X1DA

word.
looks the shizz.
always preferred the denons to the pioneers anyway.

[markandrew]

a lot of people are using ableton because its a cheaper way to dj it may be easy but its great playing your own tunes along side tunes you have bought i loved me vinyl but can t afford to buy vinyl anymore if i get me decks set up again i will get Rane Serato Scratch Live

[davethedrummer]

a lot of people are using ableton because its a cheaper way to dj it may be easy but its great playing your own tunes along side tunes you have bought i loved me vinyl but can t afford to buy vinyl anymore if i get me decks set up again i will get Rane Serato Scratch Live

the new ableton serato crossover?

[Patrick DSP]

the new ableton serato crossover?

http://www.ableton.com/serato-partnership

[markandrew]

http://www.ableton.com/serato-partnership

i hope they jel the 2 of them together that would be the dogs