this fixture came too early in the season for United, if we'd had a settled starting eleven since the first game then i'm sure we would have done better, but it was a very dissappointing performance, the defence looked shakey from that start and obviously have no faith whatsoever in Edwin any longer, time for Foster i reckon

Liverpool played ok but they're by no means world beaters, any team going to Anfield and putting in such an inept showing as United did on saturday would be beaten, and if United play like that against Villareal and Chelsea we'll get smashed royaly