Has the era of funky energy driven techno died in the uk??

[DVNT]

Techno is future music isn't it? So by that I mean it should be constantly evolving. I love techno as much as the next guy and this isn't meant to be a negative thing, but a lot of techno sounds like techno. It's not really pushing the envelope as was the goal with techno way back when wasn't it?

[gunjack]

Techno is future music isn't it? So by that I mean it should be constantly evolving. I love techno as much as the next guy and this isn't meant to be a negative thing, but a lot of techno sounds like techno. It's not really pushing the envelope as was the goal with techno way back when wasn't it?

some of us are trying. it's tough though because people seem so determined to keep recycling a prototype that want cold years ago. i am not saying we abandon the format completely mind you, just that we try harder to be a bit more interesting than 4 and a half minutes of hard percussion, with a 4x4 feel and some "downwards" synth on top.

i mean people from certain generations couldn't even tell you about juan atkins much less marvin gaye etc.


here goes a story for you.


i was in atlanta, recording the first omerta single at matt's place. we go out to eat and i slide a marvin gaye instrumentals CD into the player. i am vibing out on the deep motown vibes and all of a sudden matt yanks out the CD and says: "sorry i can't take this music"... he then proceeds to put on the latest "underground hip hop mixtape" (hasaan insane) with biggie bootlegs etc and the first song that comes on is just a 16 bar looped sample OF THE VERY SAME MARVIN GAYE TUNE THAT WAS PLAYING WHEN HE POPPED THE DISC OUT!


this is the mentality that ****s us up. people who say "i dunno, i just play what i like" when you ask them about the roots of techno.


closed minded, genre centric, bosh bosh heads who don't know the history of this music and are, therefore, doomed to repeat it.



or outsiders who call dark tunes "funky" and come visit forums like this just to ask if the sound is "out of style"



we got to LEAD the pack not just be satisfied with something that sounds like something else that is already on wax!

i understand that new producers rely on emulation. i was the same when i started - "wow that could be a downwards tune!" (that type of mentality) but how long does it take to get past the novelty and start making tunes that actually cross boundaries or erase them altogether.


i have mad respect for detroit heads for example but they are just as guilty of getting to a certain level musically and being content to stay there for years and years!



GJ

[DVNT]

some of us are trying. it's tough though because people seem so determined to keep recycling a prototype that want cold years ago. i am not saying we abandon the format completely mind you, just that we try harder to be a bit more interesting than 4 and a half minutes of hard percussion, with a 4x4 feel and some "downwards" synth on top.

i mean people from certain generations couldn't even tell you about juan atkins much less marvin gaye etc.


here goes a story for you.


i was in atlanta, recording the first omerta single at matt's place. we go out to eat and i slide a marvin gaye instrumentals CD into the player. i am vibing out on the deep motown vibes and all of a sudden matt yanks out the CD and says: "sorry i can't take this music"... he then proceeds to put on the latest "underground hip hop mixtape" (hasaan insane) with biggie bootlegs etc and the first song that comes on is just a 16 bar looped sample OF THE VERY SAME MARVIN GAYE TUNE THAT WAS PLAYING WHEN HE POPPED THE DISC OUT!


this is the mentality that ****s us up. people who say "i dunno, i just play what i like" when you ask them about the roots of techno.


closed minded, genre centric, bosh bosh heads who don't know the history of this music and are, therefore, doomed to repeat it.



or outsiders who call dark tunes "funky" and come visit forums like this just to ask if the sound is "out of style"



we got to LEAD the pack not just be satisfied with something that sounds like something else that is already on wax!

i understand that new producers rely on emulation. i was the same when i started - "wow that could be a downwards tune!" (that type of mentality) but how long does it take to get past the novelty and start making tunes that actually cross boundaries or erase them altogether.


i have mad respect for detroit heads for example but they are just as guilty of getting to a certain level musically and being content to stay there for years and years!



GJ

Exactly. :D

[RitchieP]

that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

[dan the acid man]

Can i just clear up the fact that no post in this thread so far has been edited in anyway by any mod.

[djfilthmonger]

that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

minimal is on its way out mate I can feel it. Well maybe not on its way out but prob gett better more intresting than blips and blops

[davethedrummer]

well i can see a BIG resurgence in underground techno in london
and thats always a good thing.
minimal has become a victim of it's own success in lot's of ways
but the music is still good and works on the floor
but people think it's more fashionable now to slag it off than to like it.
Weird, because it's still being played everywhere
its like there's people standing outside clubs smoking cigs saying:
" oh, minimal this and minimal that blah blah its all crap etc etc ..."
and the music in the club they're outside of is minimal! and it's going off!!
it's all nonsense if you ask me.
final word:
find the stuff you like, ignore the brand name.

[Darkmode]

that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

Minimal will eventually die out as people are already getting bored of it anways Techno has never died as it's always Evolving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jon connor]

that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

hahahahahahaha wot a load of toffs thinking this is music running round ibiza on kettemin hahahahahaah mate that word minimal should be changed to bloody ambient.

[djfilthmonger]

this is the mentality that ****s us up. people who say "i dunno, i just play what i like" when you ask them about the roots of techno.


closed minded, genre centric, bosh bosh heads who don't know the history of this music and are, therefore, doomed to repeat it.

I get ya its like House Dj's here suddenly play minimal techno becoz thats wat people want . But they have no understanding of the techno Genre and how it has changed throughout the year's they turn there head to harder stuff. I had one of these guys telling me Sunshine - Tomaz Vs Filterheadz was a heptic hard techno nonsense... I justed laugh at him and said shows what u know about techno.